First, I don't care what system I get it for. I'm a gamer, I just want the game already. If the graphics are better on 360, I'll get the 360 version. If it's better on PS3 version, I'll get that version. But I was thinking just now about what MS has done with the whole DLC scene, and how fanboys have been saying the 360 version is the ''complete'', or the ''definitive'' version. This isn't a rant against the 360, or DLC. I have no beef with the system, but more or less MS, and what gamers are allowing them to do.
If the PS3 isn't getting the complete game, then don't release a PS3 version. It's as simple as that. Us gamers have just allowed MS to potentally screw up a great franchise for a large number of fans. If there's one thing fanboys all have in common, it's that everyone's simply a ''fan''. Lemmings can claim that it's just buisness, but it's much more then that. If a large group of fans aren't getting the definitive game because MS simply payed for content, how can you support this and call yourself a gamer? I'm not talking about graphical differences, that's not at all part of this argument. (that's obviously based on a system's limitations. Nothing can be done about that) I'm talking about content, and/or the loss of it by choice.
A great franchise like GTA now, but what next? If MS payed for exclusive content for every game, half the audience is getting screwed over because the franchise ''sold out'' and allowed a lesser version by choice. Don't you want everyone to enjoy GTA? This isn't the same as paying for exclusive titles... That means the definitive game is only being released on one system. Gamers only have the one choice. Nothing wrong with that.
If Square announced they were releasing the next Final Fantasy on 360, but leaving out 20 hours of the gameplay because Sony payed for those exclusive hours. Almost everyone would say thats ridiculous, and boycott it. 360 would be getting a crippled version. We'll, if the PS3 isn't getting the complete definitive GTA4, what is it getting? A crippled port? But R* didn't leave anything out of the PS3 version. So again, what does that make the PS3 version? The 360's versions little brother? Going by fanboy logic, MS has just messed around with the artistic value of the game for a large majority of fans. Because in the end, the fans are what makes the game. And the last thing I want as a gamer is for the fans to get screwed. Apparently thats okay though with MS, and it's followers.
Again I'm not trying to attack lemmings, the 360, but more or less what MS has done, and how fanboys are all okay with it. I'm not trying to be a fanboy. It's just an opinion from a gamer who grew up during the Nes day, and is virtually disgusted at that what is happening to a beloved franchise, and some of it's fans.
P.S. This is a completely different issue then when consoles get a halfa$$ed ported PC game. Completely different systems, and different subjects. So no need to post ''this has been happening with PC to console games for ever dude. pwnd! /thread''. The usual crap. And the first response that says ''blog it'' should be posted right about... Now. I was thinking about GTA4 's DLC, and MS ...
Wow... this is the most inventive damage control I've seen in a while...Bottom line... PS3 players will get a ''complete'' game but not in the sence that 360 users will... 360 owners will get much much more... Again, it's the difference of buying a car that drives compared to a car with all the bells and whistles that drives...I was thinking about GTA4 's DLC, and MS ...
P.S. I just read in another thread that you are a fanboy if you think that the DLC makes 360 v. better than ps3...That may be the most simple minded garbage I have ever read and now I'm going to have to go kill a kitten...If you think that the 360 version with huge expansion DLC isn't the no brainer than you have a serious mental issue.Now, were is that kitten....
[QUOTE=''colmusterd28'']P.S. I just read in another thread that you are a fanboy if you think that the DLC makes 360 v. better than ps3...That may be the most simple minded garbage I have ever read and now I'm going to have to go kill a kitten...If you think that the 360 version with huge expansion DLC isn't the no brainer than you have a serious mental issue.Now, were is that kitten....[/QUOTE]well if you feel like spending $90 on GTA, probably more.
[QUOTE=''ski11buzz''][QUOTE=''colmusterd28'']P.S. I just read in another thread that you are a fanboy if you think that the DLC makes 360 v. better than ps3...That may be the most simple minded garbage I have ever read and now I'm going to have to go kill a kitten...If you think that the 360 version with huge expansion DLC isn't the no brainer than you have a serious mental issue.Now, were is that kitten....[/QUOTE]well if you feel like spending $90 on GTA, probably more.[/QUOTE]If you're willing to spend that much, you should mock Sony fans for GT5P and buying GT5
I there's one thing I hate about this generation it's definitley arguing about multi-plats.
Rockstar could have simply refused to create separate content for one console by saying ''no'' and cited every argument you present here. They could have said we are going to make all things accessible to all gamers. Where is their culpability in this? If you disapprove so strongly, take a stand and don't buy the PS3 version. Tell them by abstaining that you won't settle for a lesser version.I think MS is working much harder for 360 owners and they have put their money where their mouth is. A lot of money. I appreciate a business working for its customers. Sony needs to take notes in that regard.
So now expansion packs are problems now? Please.That's all the DLC is: EXPANSION PACKS. That the PS3 won't be getting.It is a more complete version. Will the DLC be needed? No. Is it cool to have **** yeah. I'm a big fan of the series and more content is always welcome.
[QUOTE=''thrones''][QUOTE=''ski11buzz''][QUOTE=''colmusterd28'']P.S. I just read in another thread that you are a fanboy if you think that the DLC makes 360 v. better than ps3...That may be the most simple minded garbage I have ever read and now I'm going to have to go kill a kitten...If you think that the 360 version with huge expansion DLC isn't the no brainer than you have a serious mental issue.Now, were is that kitten....[/QUOTE]well if you feel like spending $90 on GTA, probably more.[/QUOTE]If you're willing to spend that much, you should mock Sony fans for GT5P and buying GT5 [/QUOTE]No that's nonsense. In GT5's case you are paying for the same content TWICE.
[QUOTE=''ski11buzz''][QUOTE=''colmusterd28''] P.S. I just read in another thread that you are a fanboy if you think that the DLC makes 360 v. better than ps3...That may be the most simple minded garbage I have ever read and now I'm going to have to go kill a kitten...If you think that the 360 version with huge expansion DLC isn't the no brainer than you have a serious mental issue.Now, were is that kitten....[/QUOTE]well if you feel like spending $90 on GTA, probably more.[/QUOTE]PS3 version is going to cost $110 and you get no extra content like the 360 version. ;)
What MS has done? This is just business, and deals like this occur often.
hope MS makes profit from it
how many X360 owners don't have a harddrive for DLC?
anyway the geniuses behind GTA are going PS3 exclusive with their comming games so it evens out?
Its all about choice. The people who will be getting the inferior versions CHOSE to not purchase a 360 and a ps3 instead, they arent being punished for owning the ps3, theyre just not being rewarded for owning the 360 version
I've got a 360 so I'm in the clear. But along with having the system, and the game does not alone give you a superior version. We do afterall, have to pay for it. It is just a choice, a small incentive we get for owning, or purchasing the game for that certain system. There is no difference between the 360 or ps3, the game will be awesome on both platforms. The only difference is that when we're all done with the game, people with the 360 version have the option to purchase 20+ extra hours of new gameplay. If you say that it's ridiculous to pay for new content, or that it doesn't matter, then you are not a true GTA fan and should not buy the game. Every true GTA fan knows that more GTA is better, no if's and's or but's.
[QUOTE=''Rhubarb9'']hope MS makes profit from it
how many X360 owners don't have a harddrive for DLC?
anyway the geniuses behind GTA are going PS3 exclusive with their comming games so it evens out?
[/QUOTE]Yeah sure they are. :lol:
If you've read my other posts, you would know I'm most likely buying the 360 version. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. But when I think about it from a pure PS3 perspective, where apparently they don't get the whole game, MS is messing arund with the franchise. Is this what the future of gaming is going to be like. Paying for your system to have the whole game, while the rest get a less ''less-content'' version.
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[QUOTE=''dr-venkman'']If you've read my other posts, you would know I'm most likely buying the 360 version. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. But when I think about it from a pure PS3 perspective, where apparently they don't get the whole game, MS is messing arund with the franchise. Is this what the future of gaming is going to be like. Paying for your system to have the whole game, while the rest get a less ''less-content'' version.[/QUOTE] This really isn't knew. Tons of games have been released on different consoles with exclusive content. And in those cases the exclusive content doesn't even cost additional money. Why does it's distribution method make a difference?
[QUOTE=''ski11buzz''][QUOTE=''colmusterd28'']P.S. I just read in another thread that you are a fanboy if you think that the DLC makes 360 v. better than ps3...That may be the most simple minded garbage I have ever read and now I'm going to have to go kill a kitten...If you think that the 360 version with huge expansion DLC isn't the no brainer than you have a serious mental issue.Now, were is that kitten....[/QUOTE]well if you feel like spending $90 on GTA, probably more.[/QUOTE] we could say the same thing about GT5P :| anyways.....is it true that we get free content if we buy the game the first day it comes out? i already have it pre-ordered
It will be really annoying for people who only own a PS3 and if it were up to me both systems would have the content.I really hope this doesn't happen with any other multiplats. I would hate to see Sony and MS battling for exclusive content on a multiplat.
Friday, April 16, 2010
Bioshock Concept Art....
http://www.n4g.com/News-117992.aspx Looks like seaworld with the wahle Statue. lol. Looks great. Bioshock Concept Art....
Is that definitely Bioshock Concept Art? He says he's a student after all.Bioshock Concept Art....
No, it's not official.
I dont see anything about Bioshock 2 on his blog...
[QUOTE=''AAllxxjjnn'']I dont see anything about Bioshock 2 on his blog...[/QUOTE]...[QUOTE=''Ben Mauro'']These images are for a proposed sequel to 'Bioshock'.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=''bearbones''][QUOTE=''AAllxxjjnn'']I dont see anything about Bioshock 2 on his blog...[/QUOTE]...[QUOTE=''Ben Mauro'']These images are for a proposed sequel to 'Bioshock'.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]looks like I wasnt paying attention.
That first picture better not be above ground. I hope they don't make Bishock 2 suck.
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:|What is this, a flying whale train?
[QUOTE=''MetroidPrimePwn'']![]()
:|What is this, a flying whale train?[/QUOTE]
Well... it looks interesting to say the least
The first three pics look life concept art for Half-Life 2, the rest of them don't look like Bioshock at all...I don't mind a change of setting, but this game is currently looking totally unrelated to the first game.
doesn't look very bioshockywhere's the cool art-style? this looks a touch more generic
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-118031.aspxfakefoundation makeup
Is that definitely Bioshock Concept Art? He says he's a student after all.Bioshock Concept Art....
No, it's not official.
I dont see anything about Bioshock 2 on his blog...
[QUOTE=''AAllxxjjnn'']I dont see anything about Bioshock 2 on his blog...[/QUOTE]...[QUOTE=''Ben Mauro'']These images are for a proposed sequel to 'Bioshock'.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=''bearbones''][QUOTE=''AAllxxjjnn'']I dont see anything about Bioshock 2 on his blog...[/QUOTE]...[QUOTE=''Ben Mauro'']These images are for a proposed sequel to 'Bioshock'.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]looks like I wasnt paying attention.
That first picture better not be above ground. I hope they don't make Bishock 2 suck.
[QUOTE=''MetroidPrimePwn'']
Well... it looks interesting to say the least
The first three pics look life concept art for Half-Life 2, the rest of them don't look like Bioshock at all...I don't mind a change of setting, but this game is currently looking totally unrelated to the first game.
doesn't look very bioshockywhere's the cool art-style? this looks a touch more generic
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-118031.aspxfake
Army of Two - Review By Gamerevolver
Army of Two - Reviewed. As a skeptic going into this game, I have a rough view of what this game should be. With numerous delays plaguing this game for over a year, you can't help but wonder how this title will turn out. Upon arrival of our evaluation copy, I threw it in the PS3 as fast as I could, carefully placing Call of Duty 4: MW into its slick, Blu-Ray sized game case. As I booted up the game, my excitement grew. From a gamers stand point, this is the kind of game you dream about playing, but never get to see it released. Today is a different day. Today, we review Army of Two. PRESENTATION 9.5 GRAPHICS 8.5 SOUND 9.0 GAMEPLAY 9.5 REPLAY VALUE 6.0 FUN FACTOR 9.5![]()
Presentation: EA has brought numerous new additions to games over the years, from racing to fighting to first person shooters, but I have to say, this is by far the most unique title we have seen to date. Army of Two not only emphasizes multiplayer camaraderie, but literally forces it upon you. You take on the role of your choice of Tyson Rios and Eliot Salem, to mercenaries working for the Security and Strategy Corporation (SSC). You are given a brief synopsis of how the two met early in the game, but for a more detailed view, just look in the manual, it's all there. Long story short, you were in the US Army Rangers together where, as a team, your skills shined through, impressing the likes of your commanding officer, and grabbing the attention of the SSC, which is where we start our venture. The story behind the game is very intriguing and the characters are brought to life with great voice over and constant chatter, much like Kane %26 Lynch, only better! From cover to game play, this one is pretty sweet. ![]()
http://gamerevolver.com/article-91-Army-of-Two--Reviewed.html Army of Two - Review By Gamerevolver
[QUOTE=''Lord_Pro'']''The story behind the game is very intriguing and the characters are brought to life with great voice over and constant chatter, much like Kane %26 Lynch''[/QUOTE] hmm....
Army of Two - Review By Gamerevolver
Sounds a little high :?And I'm hyped for this game
Hopefully that replay value is just for the PS3 version.
The reviewer says he can't get enough and then gives it a 6 on Replay value.I though it would have some kind of multiplayer mode.I'm really not a big fan of the whole ''uber macho banter'' crap that this reviewer seems so delighted by.But...it's interesting to hear that someone does really like this game and praises it's gameplay.
[QUOTE=''joey101010''][QUOTE=''Lord_Pro'']''The story behind the game is very intriguing and the characters are brought to life with great voice over and constant chatter, much like Kane %26 Lynch''[/QUOTE] hmm....
[/QUOTE] well the voice acting was good in kane abd lynch, just the story sucked.
Nice. There's so many great games coming out this month. I'm definitely grabbing this game. I lost interest for a bit until I saw the new gameplay videos. It's weird that they gave the replay value a 6. It's a friggin co-op game, I thought the replay value would be at least an 8.
I plan to get the game, so hopefully wont be disappointed and enjoy the game specially in co-op mode :) PSN ID: anubis1980
Wassup with the replay value?Didnt they say Ao2 had some online game modes you can do too?
why is replay value so low....its a coop game shouldnt the replay value be high?
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Hopefully that replay value is just for the PS3 version.[/QUOTE] Fanboy much? Or just flame baiting?
[QUOTE=''Sollet''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Hopefully that replay value is just for the PS3 version.[/QUOTE] Fanboy much? Or just flame baiting?[/QUOTE]i think its a bit of both :?
it has online co-op so to me it gives it more replay value than 6?
I expect 8.0-8.5 on GS
Pretty poor review if you ask me.
[QUOTE=''skrat_01'']Pretty poor review if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
lots of grammatical errors as well..
[QUOTE=''Lord_Pro'']''The story behind the game is very intriguing and the characters are brought to life with great voice over and constant chatter, much like Kane %26 Lynch''[/QUOTE] hmm....
Army of Two - Review By Gamerevolver
Sounds a little high :?And I'm hyped for this game
Hopefully that replay value is just for the PS3 version.
The reviewer says he can't get enough and then gives it a 6 on Replay value.I though it would have some kind of multiplayer mode.I'm really not a big fan of the whole ''uber macho banter'' crap that this reviewer seems so delighted by.But...it's interesting to hear that someone does really like this game and praises it's gameplay.
[QUOTE=''joey101010''][QUOTE=''Lord_Pro'']''The story behind the game is very intriguing and the characters are brought to life with great voice over and constant chatter, much like Kane %26 Lynch''[/QUOTE] hmm....
[/QUOTE] well the voice acting was good in kane abd lynch, just the story sucked.
Nice. There's so many great games coming out this month. I'm definitely grabbing this game. I lost interest for a bit until I saw the new gameplay videos. It's weird that they gave the replay value a 6. It's a friggin co-op game, I thought the replay value would be at least an 8.
I plan to get the game, so hopefully wont be disappointed and enjoy the game specially in co-op mode :) PSN ID: anubis1980
Wassup with the replay value?Didnt they say Ao2 had some online game modes you can do too?
why is replay value so low....its a coop game shouldnt the replay value be high?
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Hopefully that replay value is just for the PS3 version.[/QUOTE] Fanboy much? Or just flame baiting?
[QUOTE=''Sollet''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Hopefully that replay value is just for the PS3 version.[/QUOTE] Fanboy much? Or just flame baiting?[/QUOTE]i think its a bit of both :?
it has online co-op so to me it gives it more replay value than 6?
I expect 8.0-8.5 on GS
Pretty poor review if you ask me.
[QUOTE=''skrat_01'']Pretty poor review if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
lots of grammatical errors as well..
The Industry should just stop with scori ...
I mean seriously.....there is no way to differentiate with any objectivity the difference between a 9.3 or a 9.4, or even a 9.0 versus a 9.5. Especially nowadays with the seemingly added pressure from developers and publishers to try and somehow secure good scores for their games and the massive amounts of money tied into advertising into the same companies that do the review (man, what a catch 22) it just seems silly to give out scores anymore. It'll never happen because people love fighting over scores and love just looking at the scores and never actually reading the text. But I just think that the 0 to 10 scale and even the F to A+ scale like EGM just adopted are almost silly. What is the difference between an A- and and an A. You can't really point out objectively what that difference is, because in essence, video games are mostly a form of art. And how can you objectively grade it. The Industry should just stop with scori ...
NoThe Industry should just stop with scori ...
Generally, a game that universally scores AA-AAA will be better than one that gets mostly A reviews.
Scores are a projection of the games themselves as seen through the eyes of a person/group - an opinion.The positive about them is that they help to educate the consumer/gamer that wants to buy a game but unsure of how it is, it also helps to raise attention and critical acclaim for the game; the negative, well just look at System Wars.
a review should tell the consumer what they are buying, not what the reviewer feels about the game. Tell them the features, differences in versions (to past games if its a sequel and compared to different systems) and of course about bugs and glitches and such.
Well...I notice that with something like Rotten Tomatoes if a movie gets 50% on there I could either love it or hate it. That has nothing to do with video game reviews though I just thought I would throw that out there.I don't use Gamerankings or Metacritic to get some kind of clarity on what I think of a game. Especially this generation where reviews seem to be all over the place like never before. Sure there is still agreement in general about what games are good and what games are bad but as an experienced gamer I can usually tell that with minor inspection of a game.Anyway...you have to take everything with a grain of salt and if you really want a game and are undecided about it because of a review you should rent it or borrow it. As for ditching a scoring system and just going with a written review which I guess you are saying should be done...that would be OK with me.
[QUOTE=''JiveT'']Well...I notice that with something like Rotten Tomatoes if a movie gets 50% on there I could either love it or hate it. That has nothing to do with video game reviews though I just thought I would throw that out there.I don't use Gamerankings or Metacritic to get some kind of clarity on what I think of a game. Especially this generation where reviews seem to be all over the place like never before. Sure there is still agreement in general about what games are good and what games are bad but as an experienced gamer I can usually tell that with minor inspection of a game.Anyway...you have to take everything with a grain of salt and if you really want a game and are undecided about it because of a review you should rent it or borrow it. As for ditching a scoring system and just going with a written review which I guess you are saying should be done...that would be OK with me.[/QUOTE]
Well movies ratings and game ratings are different, there could be a movie that everyone hates and thinks it total crap, but you could love it. Same with games, but playing and watching are different. You could still love a game that gets bad reviews, but games are reviewed on gameplay, sound, graphics, etc. You probably don't understand what I'm trying to say, but whatever. I guess the way each are reviewed are different.
Well I tend to watch video review just to hear what they have to say. If they say stuff is bad that I like I dont assume its bad.
no
While I agree with you, remember that in a good review system the score is supplementary to the text. It's the equivalent of a concluding paragraph, the reviewer liked X, but didn't like Y, and in the end they felt X-Y=Z, where Z is the score. I agree that the .X scales used by the majority of sources are ludicrous and should be replaced by something simpler, like a true 5-star system (true meaning one where only instant c.lassics like Portal and Ocarina of Time score 5/5), but those .X's are necessary. Not only are they of great use for drawing in viewers (8.8 anyone?) but the majority of reviewers seem incapable of describing why a game is good or bad, so they use the score to set a precedent. For example I doubt you could tell the difference between the majority of AA and AAA titles by reading the text without knowing the score. I would love for reviewers to simplify their scores, but they seem incapable of doing it.
[QUOTE=''-Montauk-'']Generally, a game that universally scores AA-AAA will be better than one that gets mostly A reviews.[/QUOTE] The fact that you don't even consider games below A shows that the current review scale (1 to 10) is too ''broad'' for video games.Personally, I prefer a system like Siskel %26 Ebert's ''Two Thumbs Up'' reviews. Is it a must-play? Two thumbs up. Will it only appeal to certain tastes, or does it have a few flaws? One thumb up. Is it not that enjoyable at all and only mediocre or worse? Two thumbs down.Simple, straightforward, and to the point. All other details are handled in the words of the review itself.
[QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']While I agree with you, remember that in a good review system the score is supplementary to the text. It's the equivalent of a concluding paragraph, the reviewer liked X, but didn't like Y, and in the end they felt X-Y=Z, where Z is the score. I agree that the .X scales used by the majority of sources are ludicrous and should be replaced by something simpler, like a true 5-star system (true meaning one where only instant c.lassics like Portal and Ocarina of Time score 5/5), but those .X's are necessary. Not only are they of great use for drawing in viewers (8.8 anyone?) but the majority of reviewers seem incapable of describing why a game is good or bad, so they use the score to set a precedent. For example I doubt you could tell the difference between the majority of AA and AAA titles by reading the text without knowing the score. I would love for reviewers to simplify their scores, but they seem incapable of doing it.[/QUOTE] That's not a ''true'' 5 star system at all. A ''true'' 5 star system would give all great games worth playing -- NOT just instant classics -- a 5, and then scale down from there. Like GameSpy.The whole idea that only ''classics'' should get a full score is what started this whole problem with ''perfect scores = perfect games'' in the first place. It needs to be abolished, completely, and the whole industry needs to move away from the idea from numbered game ratings with more than ten increments.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''-Montauk-'']Generally, a game that universally scores AA-AAA will be better than one that gets mostly A reviews.[/QUOTE] The fact that you don't even consider games below A shows that the current review scale (1 to 10) is too ''broad'' for video games.Personally, I prefer a system like Siskel %26 Ebert's ''Two Thumbs Up'' reviews. Is it a must-play? Two thumbs up. Will it only appeal to certain tastes, or does it have a few flaws? One thumb up. Is it not that enjoyable at all and only mediocre or worse? Two thumbs down.Simple, straightforward, and to the point. All other details are handled in the words of the review itself.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying I don't consider games that get less than A reviews :| And I didn't say A games aren't bad either. Using your system I would say, a game that got mostly two thumbs up would generally be better than a game that got one thumb up.
[QUOTE=''-Montauk-''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''-Montauk-'']Generally, a game that universally scores AA-AAA will be better than one that gets mostly A reviews.[/QUOTE] The fact that you don't even consider games below A shows that the current review scale (1 to 10) is too ''broad'' for video games.Personally, I prefer a system like Siskel %26 Ebert's ''Two Thumbs Up'' reviews. Is it a must-play? Two thumbs up. Will it only appeal to certain tastes, or does it have a few flaws? One thumb up. Is it not that enjoyable at all and only mediocre or worse? Two thumbs down.Simple, straightforward, and to the point. All other details are handled in the words of the review itself.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying I don't consider games that get less than A reviews :| And I didn't say A games aren't bad either. Using your system I would say, a game that got mostly two thumbs up would generally be better than a game that got one thumb up.[/QUOTE] Exactly, and that's all that's needed in a review system. ''Strongly recommended,'' ''recommended,'' and ''not recommended.'' This whole ''AAA/AA/A'' nonsense accomplishes nothing.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']While I agree with you, remember that in a good review system the score is supplementary to the text. It's the equivalent of a concluding paragraph, the reviewer liked X, but didn't like Y, and in the end they felt X-Y=Z, where Z is the score. I agree that the .X scales used by the majority of sources are ludicrous and should be replaced by something simpler, like a true 5-star system (true meaning one where only instant c.lassics like Portal and Ocarina of Time score 5/5), but those .X's are necessary. Not only are they of great use for drawing in viewers (8.8 anyone?) but the majority of reviewers seem incapable of describing why a game is good or bad, so they use the score to set a precedent. For example I doubt you could tell the difference between the majority of AA and AAA titles by reading the text without knowing the score. I would love for reviewers to simplify their scores, but they seem incapable of doing it.[/QUOTE] That's not a ''true'' 5 star system at all. A ''true'' 5 star system would give all great games worth playing -- NOT just instant classics -- a 5, and then scale down from there. Like GameSpy.The whole idea that only ''classics'' should get a full score is what started this whole problem with ''perfect scores = perfect games'' in the first place. It needs to be abolished, completely, and the whole industry needs to move away from the idea from numbered game ratings with more than ten increments.[/QUOTE] I agree. I was only using Portal and Ocarina of Time as examples since they are regarded by most to be exceptional games, rather than picking something controversial or unknown like Halo or Audiosurf (respectively). What I meant by ''instant classic'' is the game should be deserving of the score, rather than a source like IGN that seems to throw 9's at anything that entertains them for more than 12 consecutive seconds. An instant c.lassic doesn't have to be perfect, case in point (at least IMO) Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl.
i think that a good game score will give games good rep. but it doesnt necessary mean it will sell well. like look at okami that game most kick ass and most people who hav played it agree but the scales of that game wasnt has good as it should have been. plus there are alot of **** game magzines and sites that hand out good reviews like free candy. now that IS bull-****. im sure there are alot of dumb kids out there that get watever the hell they want and they think a good review= a good game. there are games that deserve better scores and some reviews that should just be labled s*** like kanye and lynch countless other ones
Yeah...um no...How about they come up with some better review rules? or how about instead of looking at just the score you read the actual review once in a while? let alone the fact most reviwers hardly get to play through 1/3rd of the game and only get to play through a small amount before review time is up.Alot of them put alot of good stuff in the review if you read it then you might find out the game is worthwhile but alot of people just wanna know if they should buy it and just look at the scores. there is no flaws with the review system the flaw is with the user, because all users have different opinions, and all users have different tastes.reviewers cant cater to every one.
I agree because it has become flawed. The reviewer will always have their opinion and for someone to use their score as a basis on whether to buy the game or not is stupid. Sure take this persons view of the game into consideration but people blindly go to the score only and thats the problem. If you take away the score they have to read and actually can gauge better if they will like the game or not. What I hate the most is the power publishers can have over the sites/mags. Exclusive preview/reviews are what alot of these places rely on to get more users and thus getting more advertising revenue. Pubslishers will not offer you the exclusive or even let u review before release in some cases if you dont play ball or have give their games lows scores in the past. The reviews you cannot trust the most are the sites where the game is plastered all over the site in advertisments around the time they review the game. Just look what happend here with kane and lynch and its hard for anyone not to bow down to the publishers to some degree since they literally pay alot of peoples wages in the industry.
[QUOTE=''MikeE21286'']I mean seriously.....there is no way to differentiate with any objectivity the difference between a 9.3 or a 9.4, or even a 9.0 versus a 9.5. Especially nowadays with the seemingly added pressure from developers and publishers to try and somehow secure good scores for their games and the massive amounts of money tied into advertising into the same companies that do the review (man, what a catch 22) it just seems silly to give out scores anymore. It'll never happen because people love fighting over scores and love just looking at the scores and never actually reading the text. But I just think that the 0 to 10 scale and even the F to A+ scale like EGM just adopted are almost silly. What is the difference between an A- and and an A. You can't really point out objectively what that difference is, because in essence, video games are mostly a form of art. And how can you objectively grade it. [/QUOTE]That only goes for console or multi-platform publications. Generally speaking, PC only magazines rate games substantially harder.
but then how will we measure sucess
NoThe Industry should just stop with scori ...
Generally, a game that universally scores AA-AAA will be better than one that gets mostly A reviews.
Scores are a projection of the games themselves as seen through the eyes of a person/group - an opinion.The positive about them is that they help to educate the consumer/gamer that wants to buy a game but unsure of how it is, it also helps to raise attention and critical acclaim for the game; the negative, well just look at System Wars.
a review should tell the consumer what they are buying, not what the reviewer feels about the game. Tell them the features, differences in versions (to past games if its a sequel and compared to different systems) and of course about bugs and glitches and such.
Well...I notice that with something like Rotten Tomatoes if a movie gets 50% on there I could either love it or hate it. That has nothing to do with video game reviews though I just thought I would throw that out there.I don't use Gamerankings or Metacritic to get some kind of clarity on what I think of a game. Especially this generation where reviews seem to be all over the place like never before. Sure there is still agreement in general about what games are good and what games are bad but as an experienced gamer I can usually tell that with minor inspection of a game.Anyway...you have to take everything with a grain of salt and if you really want a game and are undecided about it because of a review you should rent it or borrow it. As for ditching a scoring system and just going with a written review which I guess you are saying should be done...that would be OK with me.
[QUOTE=''JiveT'']Well...I notice that with something like Rotten Tomatoes if a movie gets 50% on there I could either love it or hate it. That has nothing to do with video game reviews though I just thought I would throw that out there.I don't use Gamerankings or Metacritic to get some kind of clarity on what I think of a game. Especially this generation where reviews seem to be all over the place like never before. Sure there is still agreement in general about what games are good and what games are bad but as an experienced gamer I can usually tell that with minor inspection of a game.Anyway...you have to take everything with a grain of salt and if you really want a game and are undecided about it because of a review you should rent it or borrow it. As for ditching a scoring system and just going with a written review which I guess you are saying should be done...that would be OK with me.[/QUOTE]
Well movies ratings and game ratings are different, there could be a movie that everyone hates and thinks it total crap, but you could love it. Same with games, but playing and watching are different. You could still love a game that gets bad reviews, but games are reviewed on gameplay, sound, graphics, etc. You probably don't understand what I'm trying to say, but whatever. I guess the way each are reviewed are different.
Well I tend to watch video review just to hear what they have to say. If they say stuff is bad that I like I dont assume its bad.
no
While I agree with you, remember that in a good review system the score is supplementary to the text. It's the equivalent of a concluding paragraph, the reviewer liked X, but didn't like Y, and in the end they felt X-Y=Z, where Z is the score. I agree that the .X scales used by the majority of sources are ludicrous and should be replaced by something simpler, like a true 5-star system (true meaning one where only instant c.lassics like Portal and Ocarina of Time score 5/5), but those .X's are necessary. Not only are they of great use for drawing in viewers (8.8 anyone?) but the majority of reviewers seem incapable of describing why a game is good or bad, so they use the score to set a precedent. For example I doubt you could tell the difference between the majority of AA and AAA titles by reading the text without knowing the score. I would love for reviewers to simplify their scores, but they seem incapable of doing it.
[QUOTE=''-Montauk-'']Generally, a game that universally scores AA-AAA will be better than one that gets mostly A reviews.[/QUOTE] The fact that you don't even consider games below A shows that the current review scale (1 to 10) is too ''broad'' for video games.Personally, I prefer a system like Siskel %26 Ebert's ''Two Thumbs Up'' reviews. Is it a must-play? Two thumbs up. Will it only appeal to certain tastes, or does it have a few flaws? One thumb up. Is it not that enjoyable at all and only mediocre or worse? Two thumbs down.Simple, straightforward, and to the point. All other details are handled in the words of the review itself.
[QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']While I agree with you, remember that in a good review system the score is supplementary to the text. It's the equivalent of a concluding paragraph, the reviewer liked X, but didn't like Y, and in the end they felt X-Y=Z, where Z is the score. I agree that the .X scales used by the majority of sources are ludicrous and should be replaced by something simpler, like a true 5-star system (true meaning one where only instant c.lassics like Portal and Ocarina of Time score 5/5), but those .X's are necessary. Not only are they of great use for drawing in viewers (8.8 anyone?) but the majority of reviewers seem incapable of describing why a game is good or bad, so they use the score to set a precedent. For example I doubt you could tell the difference between the majority of AA and AAA titles by reading the text without knowing the score. I would love for reviewers to simplify their scores, but they seem incapable of doing it.[/QUOTE] That's not a ''true'' 5 star system at all. A ''true'' 5 star system would give all great games worth playing -- NOT just instant classics -- a 5, and then scale down from there. Like GameSpy.The whole idea that only ''classics'' should get a full score is what started this whole problem with ''perfect scores = perfect games'' in the first place. It needs to be abolished, completely, and the whole industry needs to move away from the idea from numbered game ratings with more than ten increments.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''-Montauk-'']Generally, a game that universally scores AA-AAA will be better than one that gets mostly A reviews.[/QUOTE] The fact that you don't even consider games below A shows that the current review scale (1 to 10) is too ''broad'' for video games.Personally, I prefer a system like Siskel %26 Ebert's ''Two Thumbs Up'' reviews. Is it a must-play? Two thumbs up. Will it only appeal to certain tastes, or does it have a few flaws? One thumb up. Is it not that enjoyable at all and only mediocre or worse? Two thumbs down.Simple, straightforward, and to the point. All other details are handled in the words of the review itself.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying I don't consider games that get less than A reviews :| And I didn't say A games aren't bad either. Using your system I would say, a game that got mostly two thumbs up would generally be better than a game that got one thumb up.
[QUOTE=''-Montauk-''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''-Montauk-'']Generally, a game that universally scores AA-AAA will be better than one that gets mostly A reviews.[/QUOTE] The fact that you don't even consider games below A shows that the current review scale (1 to 10) is too ''broad'' for video games.Personally, I prefer a system like Siskel %26 Ebert's ''Two Thumbs Up'' reviews. Is it a must-play? Two thumbs up. Will it only appeal to certain tastes, or does it have a few flaws? One thumb up. Is it not that enjoyable at all and only mediocre or worse? Two thumbs down.Simple, straightforward, and to the point. All other details are handled in the words of the review itself.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying I don't consider games that get less than A reviews :| And I didn't say A games aren't bad either. Using your system I would say, a game that got mostly two thumbs up would generally be better than a game that got one thumb up.[/QUOTE] Exactly, and that's all that's needed in a review system. ''Strongly recommended,'' ''recommended,'' and ''not recommended.'' This whole ''AAA/AA/A'' nonsense accomplishes nothing.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']While I agree with you, remember that in a good review system the score is supplementary to the text. It's the equivalent of a concluding paragraph, the reviewer liked X, but didn't like Y, and in the end they felt X-Y=Z, where Z is the score. I agree that the .X scales used by the majority of sources are ludicrous and should be replaced by something simpler, like a true 5-star system (true meaning one where only instant c.lassics like Portal and Ocarina of Time score 5/5), but those .X's are necessary. Not only are they of great use for drawing in viewers (8.8 anyone?) but the majority of reviewers seem incapable of describing why a game is good or bad, so they use the score to set a precedent. For example I doubt you could tell the difference between the majority of AA and AAA titles by reading the text without knowing the score. I would love for reviewers to simplify their scores, but they seem incapable of doing it.[/QUOTE] That's not a ''true'' 5 star system at all. A ''true'' 5 star system would give all great games worth playing -- NOT just instant classics -- a 5, and then scale down from there. Like GameSpy.The whole idea that only ''classics'' should get a full score is what started this whole problem with ''perfect scores = perfect games'' in the first place. It needs to be abolished, completely, and the whole industry needs to move away from the idea from numbered game ratings with more than ten increments.[/QUOTE] I agree. I was only using Portal and Ocarina of Time as examples since they are regarded by most to be exceptional games, rather than picking something controversial or unknown like Halo or Audiosurf (respectively). What I meant by ''instant classic'' is the game should be deserving of the score, rather than a source like IGN that seems to throw 9's at anything that entertains them for more than 12 consecutive seconds. An instant c.lassic doesn't have to be perfect, case in point (at least IMO) Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl.
i think that a good game score will give games good rep. but it doesnt necessary mean it will sell well. like look at okami that game most kick ass and most people who hav played it agree but the scales of that game wasnt has good as it should have been. plus there are alot of **** game magzines and sites that hand out good reviews like free candy. now that IS bull-****. im sure there are alot of dumb kids out there that get watever the hell they want and they think a good review= a good game. there are games that deserve better scores and some reviews that should just be labled s*** like kanye and lynch countless other ones
Yeah...um no...How about they come up with some better review rules? or how about instead of looking at just the score you read the actual review once in a while? let alone the fact most reviwers hardly get to play through 1/3rd of the game and only get to play through a small amount before review time is up.Alot of them put alot of good stuff in the review if you read it then you might find out the game is worthwhile but alot of people just wanna know if they should buy it and just look at the scores. there is no flaws with the review system the flaw is with the user, because all users have different opinions, and all users have different tastes.reviewers cant cater to every one.
I agree because it has become flawed. The reviewer will always have their opinion and for someone to use their score as a basis on whether to buy the game or not is stupid. Sure take this persons view of the game into consideration but people blindly go to the score only and thats the problem. If you take away the score they have to read and actually can gauge better if they will like the game or not. What I hate the most is the power publishers can have over the sites/mags. Exclusive preview/reviews are what alot of these places rely on to get more users and thus getting more advertising revenue. Pubslishers will not offer you the exclusive or even let u review before release in some cases if you dont play ball or have give their games lows scores in the past. The reviews you cannot trust the most are the sites where the game is plastered all over the site in advertisments around the time they review the game. Just look what happend here with kane and lynch and its hard for anyone not to bow down to the publishers to some degree since they literally pay alot of peoples wages in the industry.
[QUOTE=''MikeE21286'']I mean seriously.....there is no way to differentiate with any objectivity the difference between a 9.3 or a 9.4, or even a 9.0 versus a 9.5. Especially nowadays with the seemingly added pressure from developers and publishers to try and somehow secure good scores for their games and the massive amounts of money tied into advertising into the same companies that do the review (man, what a catch 22) it just seems silly to give out scores anymore. It'll never happen because people love fighting over scores and love just looking at the scores and never actually reading the text. But I just think that the 0 to 10 scale and even the F to A+ scale like EGM just adopted are almost silly. What is the difference between an A- and and an A. You can't really point out objectively what that difference is, because in essence, video games are mostly a form of art. And how can you objectively grade it. [/QUOTE]That only goes for console or multi-platform publications. Generally speaking, PC only magazines rate games substantially harder.
but then how will we measure sucess
Gamernode reviews Brawl.
Review here!Some tidbits:[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']While the a r t s t y l e seemed spot on as usual, I couldn't help but set myself up for a possible disappointment. Well, I know this is a rather unconventional way to start a review, but I'm fairly certain that Brawl is the greatest game I've ever played in my entire life.[/quote]
On the controlls:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']Brawl has the absolute best controls of the series.[/quote]
On clones:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']Even the three space animals from Star Fox have significantly differing attacks along with overall speed and movement changes.[/quote]
On lag online:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']To my amazement, the lag wasn't nearly as awful as I had anticipated. In fact, it can be directly compared to playing Smash Bros. on a plasma television. That means that casual players will believe lag doesn't even exist, and competitive gamers will be able to adjust to the ever-so-slight delay.[/quote]
On the SSE:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']Throw away everything you thought you knew about single player Smash, because SSE is absolutely gigantic.[/quote]
On the visuals:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']At this point, though, I'm absolutely positive that Sakurai sold his soul directly to Satan in order to produce everything you see in Brawl.[/quote]
:lol:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']The models and aesthetics of each character are greatly improved over Melee, and show that the Wii has much more potential than we give it credit for[/quote]
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']Brawl's artistic and visual composition rivals games native to even the 360, and never once did the framerate dip below a solid 60fps. Brawl is truly a gorgeous game.[/quote]
Bit of an exaggeration i think :| But it's nice to hear the FPS is solid :)
On the soundtrack:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']With just under 300 songs, most of which are brand new arrangements, any respectable music lover would be content with dropping their $50 bucks down just for the tunes alone.[/quote]
On unlockables:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']I can't say for sure, but I'd average the total amount of unlockables in Brawl at somewhere between 1000 and 1500[/quote]
Conclusion:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']It's clear what Nintendo has done with Brawl. They held a gun to Sakurai's head and told him that if he didn't create the best damn game Nintendo has ever seen, they'd be forced to shoot him and his family.[/quote]And now for some shameless self promotion: My new Brawl sig![URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9717/brawlsigga6.png[/IMG][/URL]
Gamernode reviews Brawl.
Yup, it got a 10 nothing surprising there.Gamernode reviews Brawl.
this game is so awesome and has so much options that it can not take something less than ten.be sure that it will sell like crazy too...
I'm sure Gamespot will find a reason to 8.5 it, oh wait, nevermind Jeff is gone.
How come all these sites I've never heard of are already reviewing it when no big site has a review?
I am really expecting an 8.5 from GameSpot, although 9.0 already seems low from the way others have described it.
[QUOTE=''Bigboi500'']I'm sure Gamespot will find a reason to 8.5 it, oh wait, nevermind Jeff is gone.[/QUOTE]Probably a 9 now.
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[QUOTE=''-D3MO-'']well lets see. Nintendo doesn't advertise SSBB on GS - 8.0 Nintendo spends $10,000 advertising on GS - 8.5 Nintendo spends $50,000 advertising on GS - 9.0 Nintendo spends $100,000 advertising on GS, plus sends little goodies (like MS did w/ the Halo xbox) - 9.5 Nintendo spends $1,000,000 advertising on GS - 10?[/QUOTE]lol. Is that the same formula Sony will use with MGS4? :P
This is one of those games that I don't care if the reviews are 10, 7, or whatever. Its just my type of game and I know I will play the hell out of it regardless. Only one more week people :)
[QUOTE=''Bigboi500''][QUOTE=''-D3MO-'']well lets see. Nintendo doesn't advertise SSBB on GS - 8.0 Nintendo spends $10,000 advertising on GS - 8.5 Nintendo spends $50,000 advertising on GS - 9.0 Nintendo spends $100,000 advertising on GS, plus sends little goodies (like MS did w/ the Halo xbox) - 9.5 Nintendo spends $1,000,000 advertising on GS - 10?[/QUOTE]lol. Is that the same formula Sony will use with MGS4? :P[/QUOTE]
probably... :
|300 soundtracks just for a game. Holy crap!!
I think giving this game anything lower than a 9 would be a darn shame. It should score a 9 on replay value alone.
Your Brawl sig is a bit too wide for this message board. :)
Yep its gonna be one of my fav of all time but this quote is just BS:''To my amazement, the lag wasn't nearly as awful as I had anticipated. In fact, it can be directly compared to playing Smash Bros. on a plasma television. That means that casual players will believe lag doesn't even exist, and competitive gamers will be able to adjust to the ever-so-slight delay.''I have played melee for about 6 years now and the last half year i've played it on my Plasma. And i havent experienced any lag at all. And no i am not a casual rofl, me pro.
damn it.... I have to buy another game..... ugh.... my wallet is teh crying!
too bad fanboys will miss out on this quality game...
Finally a game I'll actually bother playing online with my wii =o.
On the controlls:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']Brawl has the absolute best controls of the series.[/quote]
On clones:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']Even the three space animals from Star Fox have significantly differing attacks along with overall speed and movement changes.[/quote]
On lag online:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']To my amazement, the lag wasn't nearly as awful as I had anticipated. In fact, it can be directly compared to playing Smash Bros. on a plasma television. That means that casual players will believe lag doesn't even exist, and competitive gamers will be able to adjust to the ever-so-slight delay.[/quote]
On the SSE:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']Throw away everything you thought you knew about single player Smash, because SSE is absolutely gigantic.[/quote]
On the visuals:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']At this point, though, I'm absolutely positive that Sakurai sold his soul directly to Satan in order to produce everything you see in Brawl.[/quote]
:lol:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']The models and aesthetics of each character are greatly improved over Melee, and show that the Wii has much more potential than we give it credit for[/quote]
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']Brawl's artistic and visual composition rivals games native to even the 360, and never once did the framerate dip below a solid 60fps. Brawl is truly a gorgeous game.[/quote]
Bit of an exaggeration i think :| But it's nice to hear the FPS is solid :)
On the soundtrack:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']With just under 300 songs, most of which are brand new arrangements, any respectable music lover would be content with dropping their $50 bucks down just for the tunes alone.[/quote]
On unlockables:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']I can't say for sure, but I'd average the total amount of unlockables in Brawl at somewhere between 1000 and 1500[/quote]
Conclusion:
[QUOTE=''GamerNode'']It's clear what Nintendo has done with Brawl. They held a gun to Sakurai's head and told him that if he didn't create the best damn game Nintendo has ever seen, they'd be forced to shoot him and his family.[/quote]And now for some shameless self promotion: My new Brawl sig![URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9717/brawlsigga6.png[/IMG][/URL]
Gamernode reviews Brawl.
Yup, it got a 10 nothing surprising there.Gamernode reviews Brawl.
this game is so awesome and has so much options that it can not take something less than ten.be sure that it will sell like crazy too...
I'm sure Gamespot will find a reason to 8.5 it, oh wait, nevermind Jeff is gone.
How come all these sites I've never heard of are already reviewing it when no big site has a review?
I am really expecting an 8.5 from GameSpot, although 9.0 already seems low from the way others have described it.
[QUOTE=''Bigboi500'']I'm sure Gamespot will find a reason to 8.5 it, oh wait, nevermind Jeff is gone.[/QUOTE]Probably a 9 now.
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[QUOTE=''-D3MO-'']well lets see. Nintendo doesn't advertise SSBB on GS - 8.0 Nintendo spends $10,000 advertising on GS - 8.5 Nintendo spends $50,000 advertising on GS - 9.0 Nintendo spends $100,000 advertising on GS, plus sends little goodies (like MS did w/ the Halo xbox) - 9.5 Nintendo spends $1,000,000 advertising on GS - 10?[/QUOTE]lol. Is that the same formula Sony will use with MGS4? :P
This is one of those games that I don't care if the reviews are 10, 7, or whatever. Its just my type of game and I know I will play the hell out of it regardless. Only one more week people :)
[QUOTE=''Bigboi500''][QUOTE=''-D3MO-'']well lets see. Nintendo doesn't advertise SSBB on GS - 8.0 Nintendo spends $10,000 advertising on GS - 8.5 Nintendo spends $50,000 advertising on GS - 9.0 Nintendo spends $100,000 advertising on GS, plus sends little goodies (like MS did w/ the Halo xbox) - 9.5 Nintendo spends $1,000,000 advertising on GS - 10?[/QUOTE]lol. Is that the same formula Sony will use with MGS4? :P[/QUOTE]
probably... :
|300 soundtracks just for a game. Holy crap!!
I think giving this game anything lower than a 9 would be a darn shame. It should score a 9 on replay value alone.
Your Brawl sig is a bit too wide for this message board. :)
Yep its gonna be one of my fav of all time but this quote is just BS:''To my amazement, the lag wasn't nearly as awful as I had anticipated. In fact, it can be directly compared to playing Smash Bros. on a plasma television. That means that casual players will believe lag doesn't even exist, and competitive gamers will be able to adjust to the ever-so-slight delay.''I have played melee for about 6 years now and the last half year i've played it on my Plasma. And i havent experienced any lag at all. And no i am not a casual rofl, me pro.
damn it.... I have to buy another game..... ugh.... my wallet is teh crying!
too bad fanboys will miss out on this quality game...
Finally a game I'll actually bother playing online with my wii =o.
Best Gamespot quote ever
''A typical film tends to be fairly short, and Parasite Eve, in keeping with its cinematic inclinations, is no exception. Expect to finish the game all the way through in no more than 15 hours.''lolBest Gamespot quote ever
Lmao that's gold.
Best Gamespot quote ever
ill let kirk say the one in his sig and ill go with these two''so why did they call it the 360? because youll do a 360 and walk away from it''''5 X 5 = 20 gigs!''i think we all know who the first one is, ill let people figure out who said the second one :P
''What the hell is a zerg?''
-Thug_Pikachu, RIP
''PC Doesnt have HD'' or something along thos lines
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[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109'']ill let kirk say the one in his sig and ill go with these two''so why did they call it the 360? because youll do a 360 and walk away from it''''5 X 5 = 20 gigs!''i think we all know who the first one is, ill let people figure out who said the second one :P[/QUOTE]That was from ReverseCycology. The guy who qouted him said, ''forget consoles you should be playing with calculators''. LMAO that is funny.
i saw this is some guys sig today, priceless''grafics are like miniskirts, sure they look nice but they don't tell you the full story''
''Einstein and Hitler were in totally different time periods''-Twinblade''Nintendo doesn't make games fool, they publish them''-Cdog
[QUOTE=''Slyprince''] ''PC Doesnt have HD'' or something along thos lines [/QUOTE]wok7 shall never live that one down..
in response to snake beats mastercheif by a crotch grab ''well Mastercheif doesn't have a crotch so snake losses'' and my sig but i like this more
Hold on, I'll be right back...
[QUOTE=''hydrophoboe'']''A typical film tends to be fairly short, and Parasite Eve, in keeping with its cinematic inclinations, is no exception. Expect to finish the game all the way through in no more than 15 hours.''lol[/QUOTE]your sig is awesome.on a side note, i think my sig is a pretty good quote
[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109'']ill let kirk say the one in his sig and ill go with these two''so why did they call it the 360? because youll do a 360 and walk away from it''''5 X 5 = 20 gigs!''i think we all know who the first one is, ill let people figure out who said the second one :P[/QUOTE]:D ty...one i saw was by kenykyaragi about his 2008 gae play :Pill past it when i find it..
[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109''] [QUOTE=''Slyprince''] ''PC Doesnt have HD'' or something along thos lines [/QUOTE]wok7 shall never live that one down..[/QUOTE] What wok said was something along the lines of, why don't we hear about PC doing HD? Someone is sure to have the exact quote, he didn't say ''Why isn't the PC capable of HD?'' or ''Why don't we hear about the HD capabilities of PC?''Though, on further thought, he must have meant it as such, because one would think it would have been corrected by now if it were misunderstood.My fav. is:
[QUOTE=''C_dog9''] Good. keep their crap from spreading.And another thing, nintendo doesnt make games fool. They publish them.[/QUOTE]
The wii is a childs toy :|D3MO :roll:
[QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx''] The wii is a childs toy :|D3MO :roll:[/QUOTE] angry video game nerd said the same thing in his christmas carol episode
[QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']The wii is a childs toy :|D3MO :roll:[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc7/_D3MO_/2008-03-02_202211.jpg[/IMG]
Biggest Joke Ever...
I had no clue they moved April Fools a month earlier... hmm
I like my sig.
[QUOTE=''bad82man82''][QUOTE=''RobbieH1234''][QUOTE=''bad82man82''] In every gameplay video I saw, I didn't see RPG, all I saw something like gears or ghost recon with magic/abilities, the gameplay seems similer to Lost planet though in terms of movements.It is shooter, don't kid yourself with the idea otherwise.[/QUOTE]Factors that make it an RPG:
Lmao that's gold.
Best Gamespot quote ever
ill let kirk say the one in his sig and ill go with these two''so why did they call it the 360? because youll do a 360 and walk away from it''''5 X 5 = 20 gigs!''i think we all know who the first one is, ill let people figure out who said the second one :P
''What the hell is a zerg?''
-Thug_Pikachu, RIP
''PC Doesnt have HD'' or something along thos lines
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[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109'']ill let kirk say the one in his sig and ill go with these two''so why did they call it the 360? because youll do a 360 and walk away from it''''5 X 5 = 20 gigs!''i think we all know who the first one is, ill let people figure out who said the second one :P[/QUOTE]That was from ReverseCycology. The guy who qouted him said, ''forget consoles you should be playing with calculators''. LMAO that is funny.
i saw this is some guys sig today, priceless''grafics are like miniskirts, sure they look nice but they don't tell you the full story''
''Einstein and Hitler were in totally different time periods''-Twinblade''Nintendo doesn't make games fool, they publish them''-Cdog
[QUOTE=''Slyprince''] ''PC Doesnt have HD'' or something along thos lines [/QUOTE]wok7 shall never live that one down..
in response to snake beats mastercheif by a crotch grab ''well Mastercheif doesn't have a crotch so snake losses'' and my sig but i like this more
Hold on, I'll be right back...
[QUOTE=''hydrophoboe'']''A typical film tends to be fairly short, and Parasite Eve, in keeping with its cinematic inclinations, is no exception. Expect to finish the game all the way through in no more than 15 hours.''lol[/QUOTE]your sig is awesome.on a side note, i think my sig is a pretty good quote
[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109'']ill let kirk say the one in his sig and ill go with these two''so why did they call it the 360? because youll do a 360 and walk away from it''''5 X 5 = 20 gigs!''i think we all know who the first one is, ill let people figure out who said the second one :P[/QUOTE]:D ty...one i saw was by kenykyaragi about his 2008 gae play :Pill past it when i find it..
[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109''] [QUOTE=''Slyprince''] ''PC Doesnt have HD'' or something along thos lines [/QUOTE]wok7 shall never live that one down..[/QUOTE] What wok said was something along the lines of, why don't we hear about PC doing HD? Someone is sure to have the exact quote, he didn't say ''Why isn't the PC capable of HD?'' or ''Why don't we hear about the HD capabilities of PC?''Though, on further thought, he must have meant it as such, because one would think it would have been corrected by now if it were misunderstood.My fav. is:
[QUOTE=''C_dog9''] Good. keep their crap from spreading.And another thing, nintendo doesnt make games fool. They publish them.[/QUOTE]
The wii is a childs toy :|D3MO :roll:
[QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx''] The wii is a childs toy :|D3MO :roll:[/QUOTE] angry video game nerd said the same thing in his christmas carol episode
[QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']The wii is a childs toy :|D3MO :roll:[/QUOTE]
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Biggest Joke Ever...
I had no clue they moved April Fools a month earlier... hmm
I like my sig.
[QUOTE=''bad82man82''][QUOTE=''RobbieH1234''][QUOTE=''bad82man82''] In every gameplay video I saw, I didn't see RPG, all I saw something like gears or ghost recon with magic/abilities, the gameplay seems similer to Lost planet though in terms of movements.It is shooter, don't kid yourself with the idea otherwise.[/QUOTE]Factors that make it an RPG:
- You create your own character
- The character has skills, abilities and you level said skills and abilities
- NPC interaction and multiple dialogue options
- Character development
- Epic storyline
- Questing
- The player makes choices that alter the course of the story
- The consequences of your choices will most definitely be known (entire sub-plots can be removed by making a decision)
- It's a ******* BioWare game
Didnt EA challenge Gears of War?
I remember a while back EA montreal said they can make an even better game then gears of war. Graphic wise, and gameplay wise. That game was Army of two.
Don't get me wrong, I'm picking the game up, but Army of two itself looks no way near like Gears of war, and it doesnt look like it plays better then gears.
So will EA challege Gears of war2 in the near future?Didnt EA challenge Gears of War?
EA Games: Challenge EverythingDidnt EA challenge Gears of War?
EA will become like McDonalds. Poison the populous with unhealthy, small proportioned food when you can find the same product that is vastly superior, elsewhere.Edit: Im talking about EA inhouse developed games.
[QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
I thought it was, ''It's in the game!''
[QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
EA Games: If we didnt live up to the challenge, we'll make sure to buy you out next time
when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?
[QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
I thought it was, ''It's in the game!''
[/QUOTE] Thats strictly EA sports but EA games is challange everything.
[QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
I thought it was, ''It's in the game!''
[/QUOTE]
EA Sports.
[QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[/QUOTE] all right, though i find sport games to be lackluster and boring....but im guessing ur a fan of sport games, so i`ll take ur word for it
[QUOTE=''EmilioDigsIt''][QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
EA Games: If we didnt live up to the challenge, we'll make sure to buy you out next time
[/QUOTE] haha thats great. EA games: forget the challenge we own your life
They supposedly did a good job with pretty much all their sports games this past year but I wasn't pleased with Madden. They did make it run at 60FPS but they didn't amp up the animations enough.
[QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]EA Games: Quality Challenged
[QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]CnC 3
Godfather was pretty good.
[QUOTE=''Dante2710''][QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[/QUOTE] all right, though i find sport games to be lackluster and boring....but im guessing ur a fan of sport games, so i`ll take ur word for it
[/QUOTE]
and skate.
i liked burnout paradise too.
[QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]hahahahhahahahahahahhahaahahomg i cant stophold mehahahhahahahahhahahahahaha
challenge? more like copy in my opinion, EA has been like this ever since who knows when , when winning eleven for wii comes out expect the same da*n sh*t from EA
[QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[/QUOTE]and pro evo Wii is vastly better than fifa
[QUOTE=''razu_gamer2''][QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[/QUOTE]and pro evo Wii is vastly better than fifa[/QUOTE]
Is it really? Fifa08 has some amazing online for PS3 and the graphics are killer. I love the ball physics and some other changes too...it feels just like PES now. Is the Wii version really good?
foundation makeup
Don't get me wrong, I'm picking the game up, but Army of two itself looks no way near like Gears of war, and it doesnt look like it plays better then gears.
So will EA challege Gears of war2 in the near future?Didnt EA challenge Gears of War?
EA Games: Challenge EverythingDidnt EA challenge Gears of War?
EA will become like McDonalds. Poison the populous with unhealthy, small proportioned food when you can find the same product that is vastly superior, elsewhere.Edit: Im talking about EA inhouse developed games.
[QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
I thought it was, ''It's in the game!''
[QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
EA Games: If we didnt live up to the challenge, we'll make sure to buy you out next time
when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?
[QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
I thought it was, ''It's in the game!''
[/QUOTE] Thats strictly EA sports but EA games is challange everything.
[QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
I thought it was, ''It's in the game!''
[/QUOTE]
EA Sports.
[QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[/QUOTE] all right, though i find sport games to be lackluster and boring....but im guessing ur a fan of sport games, so i`ll take ur word for it
[QUOTE=''EmilioDigsIt''][QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]
EA Games: If we didnt live up to the challenge, we'll make sure to buy you out next time
[/QUOTE] haha thats great. EA games: forget the challenge we own your life
They supposedly did a good job with pretty much all their sports games this past year but I wasn't pleased with Madden. They did make it run at 60FPS but they didn't amp up the animations enough.
[QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]EA Games: Quality Challenged
[QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]CnC 3
Godfather was pretty good.
[QUOTE=''Dante2710''][QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[/QUOTE] all right, though i find sport games to be lackluster and boring....but im guessing ur a fan of sport games, so i`ll take ur word for it
[/QUOTE]
and skate.
i liked burnout paradise too.
[QUOTE=''67gt500'']EA Games: Challenge Everything[/QUOTE]hahahahhahahahahahahhahaahahomg i cant stophold mehahahhahahahahhahahahahaha
challenge? more like copy in my opinion, EA has been like this ever since who knows when , when winning eleven for wii comes out expect the same da*n sh*t from EA
[QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[/QUOTE]and pro evo Wii is vastly better than fifa
[QUOTE=''razu_gamer2''][QUOTE=''kaos-hero''][QUOTE=''Dante2710'']when was the last time that EA actually made an decent video game? :?[/QUOTE]
Fifa 08 is vastly better than PES2008. EA won back the football crowd after Fifa 08, and I've been loving Fifa 08 more than any other footbal game.
[/QUOTE]and pro evo Wii is vastly better than fifa[/QUOTE]
Is it really? Fifa08 has some amazing online for PS3 and the graphics are killer. I love the ball physics and some other changes too...it feels just like PES now. Is the Wii version really good?
SYSTEM WARS MONTHLY (February 2008) (Int ...
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Intro - Willy105[spoiler] Hello System Wars!
I am Willy105. This is a very special issue of System Wars Monthly, as we have an exclusive interview with Gamespot's own Kevin_V! We also look back at the games that have gotten AAA status in the first month of 2008! We have new installments of everyone's favorite columns, Tsug_Ze_Wind's Weather Report and TheEndBoss on the Industry! We look over the candidates for the 2008 United States presidential election and see which one is best for your gamers. And we have the results on Iron Shop 08! Who won? Keep reading and find out! It was a VERY close race!
You kill 'em we grill 'em! This....is.....SYSTEM WARS MONTHLY!!!!!!!! [/spoiler] System Wars Special Report with Tsug_Ze_Wind - Tsug_Ze_Wind[spoiler] [IMG]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9172/weatherreportzb9.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] TheEndBoss on the Industry Column - TheEndBoss[spoiler] [IMG]http://ui26.gamespot.com/1017/theendbossontheindustry2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] The Peak of the Modern Adventure Game - Willy105[spoiler] [IMG]http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6923/laytonqv8.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] A Polished Crash - Willy105[spoiler] [IMG]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3668/burnoutzd6.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Your Life...See it Disappear Before your Very Eyes - Willy105[spoiler] [IMG]http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8461/sinsbg2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] What There Should Most Defenetaly Be More Of - Willy105[spoiler] [IMG]http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9720/nomoreheroesgg7.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Election 2008: Which Electoral Candidate Really Pushes Gamers' Buttons? - rocktimusprime[spoiler] [IMG]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3600/presidentrs2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Rising to the Debate - jethrovegas[spoiler] [IMG]http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2932/debatehj0.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Prince of Persia: Ghosts of the Past - penguino726[spoiler] [IMG]http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4069/princemu2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Interview with Kevin_V - Kccp2b [spoiler] [IMG]http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3362/kevinvinterviewkp4.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] PC: Is it Dying? - greyhound222[spoiler] [IMG]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9307/pckb2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Iron Shop '08 Contest Results - Tsug_Ze_Wind[spoiler] [IMG]http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4607/ironshopcw8.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] System Wars Roundtable Discussion - rocktimusprime[spoiler] [IMG]http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4897/roundtablezh4.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] [IMG]http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8525/endrc4.png[/IMG]SYSTEM WARS MONTHLY (February 2008) (Int ...
You got an interview with Kevin-V? Sweet :DSYSTEM WARS MONTHLY (February 2008) (Int ...
i will say this again i fi had the funds i would publish you..SW monthly is very unique
I like Jethrovegas article the most here. It is practically true about how as gamers we take these issues too seriously.
Being looking forward to this!
Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.
[QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.[/QUOTE]Yes.
Great job, guys.
[QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.[/QUOTE]If it gets AA...do you really think anyone will truly consider the hype met? Aside from a few of our damage-controlling kin? ;)Either way, SW will get a huge reaction with A, AA, AAAA....this is the game to decide everything on the sheep side.And hopefully I'll be around to report it next month. :(
[QUOTE=''Tsug_Ze_Wind''][QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.[/QUOTE]If it gets AA...do you really think anyone will truly consider the hype met? Aside from a few of our damage-controlling kin? ;)Either way, SW will get a huge reaction with A, AA, AAAA....this is the game to decide everything on the sheep side.And hopefully I'll be around to report it next month. :([/QUOTE]You'll be around.
[QUOTE=''Tsug_Ze_Wind''] [QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.[/QUOTE]If it gets AA...do you really think anyone will truly consider the hype met? Aside from a few of our damage-controlling kin? ;)Either way, SW will get a huge reaction with A, AA, AAAA....this is the game to decide everything on the sheep side.And hopefully I'll be around to report it next month. :( [/QUOTE] considering GS's history with the SSBB series I'd say yes. Honestly....did GS's review of SSBM diminish the quality of SSBM? Chances are it'll probablly get AAA everywhere else. Plus it depends on the reviewer.
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Great SWM guys!
There is a pervasive feeling throughout the sections relating to PC (SOASE and ''Is PC Gaming Dying'') that the writers do not have experience with the game or platform personally. Once again, I hate to fault something you put effort into, but those pieces could have used an ''expert''.
[QUOTE=''Willy105''] You'll be around.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'll still be able to report for SW Monthly if I lose, at least one more time.[QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']considering GS's history with the SSBB series I'd say yes. Honestly....did GS's review of SSBM diminish the quality of SSBM? Chances are it'll probablly get AAA everywhere else. Plus it depends on the reviewer.[/QUOTE]Well yeah, but in the SW sense, there's no way we'll be let off the hook with just ''hype AA, discussion end.'' In some ways, you could consider it the flop of the millenia because like TP, it would just go on and on and on, and the official hype would fuel the fire.
[QUOTE=''FireEmblem_Man'']I like Jethrovegas article the most here. It is practically true about how as gamers we take these issues too seriously.[/QUOTE]yeah that article really got to me.....its not my fault i act like that on the internet!:x
job well done as always guys ;)
Very nice job. Love the interview with Kevin_V. And :cry: you didn't win Ironshop! Very close though.
Another great issue. Really loved the artwork especially. :lol:
Intro - Willy105[spoiler] Hello System Wars!
I am Willy105. This is a very special issue of System Wars Monthly, as we have an exclusive interview with Gamespot's own Kevin_V! We also look back at the games that have gotten AAA status in the first month of 2008! We have new installments of everyone's favorite columns, Tsug_Ze_Wind's Weather Report and TheEndBoss on the Industry! We look over the candidates for the 2008 United States presidential election and see which one is best for your gamers. And we have the results on Iron Shop 08! Who won? Keep reading and find out! It was a VERY close race!
You kill 'em we grill 'em! This....is.....SYSTEM WARS MONTHLY!!!!!!!! [/spoiler] System Wars Special Report with Tsug_Ze_Wind - Tsug_Ze_Wind[spoiler] [IMG]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9172/weatherreportzb9.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] TheEndBoss on the Industry Column - TheEndBoss[spoiler] [IMG]http://ui26.gamespot.com/1017/theendbossontheindustry2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] The Peak of the Modern Adventure Game - Willy105[spoiler] [IMG]http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6923/laytonqv8.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] A Polished Crash - Willy105[spoiler] [IMG]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3668/burnoutzd6.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Your Life...See it Disappear Before your Very Eyes - Willy105[spoiler] [IMG]http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8461/sinsbg2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] What There Should Most Defenetaly Be More Of - Willy105[spoiler] [IMG]http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9720/nomoreheroesgg7.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Election 2008: Which Electoral Candidate Really Pushes Gamers' Buttons? - rocktimusprime[spoiler] [IMG]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3600/presidentrs2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Rising to the Debate - jethrovegas[spoiler] [IMG]http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2932/debatehj0.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Prince of Persia: Ghosts of the Past - penguino726[spoiler] [IMG]http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4069/princemu2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Interview with Kevin_V - Kccp2b [spoiler] [IMG]http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3362/kevinvinterviewkp4.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] PC: Is it Dying? - greyhound222[spoiler] [IMG]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9307/pckb2.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] Iron Shop '08 Contest Results - Tsug_Ze_Wind[spoiler] [IMG]http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4607/ironshopcw8.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] System Wars Roundtable Discussion - rocktimusprime[spoiler] [IMG]http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4897/roundtablezh4.jpg[/IMG] [/spoiler] [IMG]http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8525/endrc4.png[/IMG]SYSTEM WARS MONTHLY (February 2008) (Int ...
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i will say this again i fi had the funds i would publish you..SW monthly is very unique
I like Jethrovegas article the most here. It is practically true about how as gamers we take these issues too seriously.
Being looking forward to this!
Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.
[QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.[/QUOTE]Yes.
Great job, guys.
[QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.[/QUOTE]If it gets AA...do you really think anyone will truly consider the hype met? Aside from a few of our damage-controlling kin? ;)Either way, SW will get a huge reaction with A, AA, AAAA....this is the game to decide everything on the sheep side.And hopefully I'll be around to report it next month. :(
[QUOTE=''Tsug_Ze_Wind''][QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.[/QUOTE]If it gets AA...do you really think anyone will truly consider the hype met? Aside from a few of our damage-controlling kin? ;)Either way, SW will get a huge reaction with A, AA, AAAA....this is the game to decide everything on the sheep side.And hopefully I'll be around to report it next month. :([/QUOTE]You'll be around.
[QUOTE=''Tsug_Ze_Wind''] [QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']Last time I checked SSBB was hyped AA.[/QUOTE]If it gets AA...do you really think anyone will truly consider the hype met? Aside from a few of our damage-controlling kin? ;)Either way, SW will get a huge reaction with A, AA, AAAA....this is the game to decide everything on the sheep side.And hopefully I'll be around to report it next month. :( [/QUOTE] considering GS's history with the SSBB series I'd say yes. Honestly....did GS's review of SSBM diminish the quality of SSBM? Chances are it'll probablly get AAA everywhere else. Plus it depends on the reviewer.
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Great SWM guys!
There is a pervasive feeling throughout the sections relating to PC (SOASE and ''Is PC Gaming Dying'') that the writers do not have experience with the game or platform personally. Once again, I hate to fault something you put effort into, but those pieces could have used an ''expert''.
[QUOTE=''Willy105''] You'll be around.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'll still be able to report for SW Monthly if I lose, at least one more time.[QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']considering GS's history with the SSBB series I'd say yes. Honestly....did GS's review of SSBM diminish the quality of SSBM? Chances are it'll probablly get AAA everywhere else. Plus it depends on the reviewer.[/QUOTE]Well yeah, but in the SW sense, there's no way we'll be let off the hook with just ''hype AA, discussion end.'' In some ways, you could consider it the flop of the millenia because like TP, it would just go on and on and on, and the official hype would fuel the fire.
[QUOTE=''FireEmblem_Man'']I like Jethrovegas article the most here. It is practically true about how as gamers we take these issues too seriously.[/QUOTE]yeah that article really got to me.....its not my fault i act like that on the internet!:x
job well done as always guys ;)
Very nice job. Love the interview with Kevin_V. And :cry: you didn't win Ironshop! Very close though.
Another great issue. Really loved the artwork especially. :lol:
For all you SSBB players...??
How is the game really?For anybody who has played it already, cause us fans who have to wait another week a taste of what is yet to come!How would you rate it? Is it really good, ok, or terrible? Is it better then Melee???Any bit of imformation would be great!!!!Thanks!!! and Discuss!For all you SSBB players...??
check smashboards.com For all you SSBB players...??
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www.google.com
[QUOTE=''Always-Honest'']www.google.com[/QUOTE]Truth.I dont' know how much longer I can wait!
Just like Melee, except it's a bit more floaty.In a nutshell.
they took out wavedash....LAME!!!!
[QUOTE=''Jimmi323'']Just like Melee, except it's a bit more floaty.In a nutshell. [/QUOTE] That pretty much sums it up. I would rate it an 8.5. and the story is pretty decent. Also Snake is a decent character.
Well it's different from Melee. It's a little slower than melee, also floatier, the characters also seemed to slide a little more than melee... some changes in how it felt, was probably because of the havoc engine. The supposed clones aren't really that much of clones at all, wich is good. I used to be preatty upset on the fact that they took a lot of melee skills, but not anymore. The game is just different, feels different and in some cases plays different, from where I'm coming from thats actually a good thing. And from what I hear, Brawl will and already has a few tricks of its own. People will just have to get used to it, because if they think that just because someone took a wavedash or an L-cancel is a good enough reason to not get their buts kicked... well, they're in for a surprise:lol:
After playing it for a few weeks, I can say that all the characters are more balanced and the game is simply amazing. Smash balls are fun for 4 player party bashes but don't work so well for competitive play since it can swing the game so quickly (especially sonic). Some players got nerfed like samus, other players were improved such as pikachu and ness. The game is a little 'slower' (for the lack of a better term) compared to SSBM. Most of the new characters are awesome and introduced new styles of play. I like metaknight, sonic, pokemon trainer and a few unlockable players. Overall, if you liked SSBM, you will LOVE SSBB.
[QUOTE=''StealthSting'']Well it's different from Melee. It's a little slower than melee, also floatier, the characters also seemed to slide a little more than melee... some changes in how it felt, was probably because of the havoc engine. The supposed clones aren't really that much of clones at all, wich is good. I used to be preatty upset on the fact that they took a lot of melee skills, but not anymore. The game is just different, feels different and in some cases plays different, from where I'm coming from thats actually a good thing. And from what I hear, Brawl will and already has a few tricks of its own. People will just have to get used to it, because if they think that just because someone took a wavedash or an L-cancel is a good enough reason to not get their buts kicked... well, they're in for a surprise:lol:
[/QUOTE]I've actually never played Melee, since I never got a Gamecube. If you've only played the N64 version to death, how will it be for a vet of that?
[QUOTE=''adastos''][QUOTE=''Jimmi323'']Just like Melee, except it's a bit more floaty.In a nutshell. [/QUOTE] That pretty much sums it up. I would rate it an 8.5. and the story is pretty decent. Also Snake is a decent character.[/QUOTE]Excellent, I plan to use him as my main. I've seen the IGN profile video on Snake, and it cleared up a lot of doubts.
hey prince. How exactly does the physics engine work in this game? What does it effect?
It worries me hearing that it is slower than Melee. One of the reasons i love Mele is because of its crazy speed.
[QUOTE=''princeofshapeir''] I've actually never played Melee, since I never got a Gamecube. If you've only played the N64 version to death, how will it be for a vet of that? [/QUOTE] Chances are you'll probably love it.
[QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']hey prince. How exactly does the physics engine work in this game? What does it effect?[/QUOTE] It probably effects on how the characters interact with the environment and probably the items as well... but if you were to ask me, I didn't see anything extraordinary in comparison to the rest of the series in this area. Or in this case nothing that couldn't possibly be done without the engine. It might have to do with how the game feels different to me, but for the fact that I can't really say for sure, speaks volumes on what I think the engine is doing in the game. [QUOTE=''tmntPunchout''] The game is a little 'slower' (for the lack of a better term) compared to SSBM. Most of the new characters are awesome and introduced new **** of play. I like metaknight, sonic, pokemon trainer and a few unlockable players. Overall, if you liked SSBM, you will LOVE SSBB. [/QUOTE] Yeah I mostly loved all the new characters as well except for one tho... don't want to spoil the game. You should try putting sonic with a bunny hood running on the F-zero blue stage... He runs faster than the freaking F-zero machines :lol: .
[QUOTE=''web966'']It worries me hearing that it is slower than Melee. One of the reasons i love Mele is because of its crazy speed.[/QUOTE]It's still a pretty fast paced game. Even though they took out some of the speed, the game seems more fluid. Big slow, powerhouses aren't as useless either, like king dede.
It's Melee with moon physics, however you can't move left and right in the air as much as you could.
Captain Falcon is nerfed big time.Graphics are nicer.Stage builder's good, but you can only flip objects left n right, and not upside down (yet?, I dunno if you unlock it.).The recorder works fine, but 3 minutes? screw that. All my battles last around 5 minutes so we never get a chance to save it.There's HEAPS of music in this game.Mario's FLUDD is crap. Even it's intended use fails.That'll do for now.
[QUOTE=''poster'']Yeah I mostly loved all the new characters as well except for one tho... don't want to spoil the game. You should try putting sonic with a bunny hood running on the F-zero blue stage... He runs faster than the freaking F-zero machines :lol: . [/QUOTE] You should try outrunning the F-zero machines with Wario's FS on his motor cycle. And btw, you can pick up Snake's box mid taunt.
[QUOTE=''Gamerboi27'']they took out wavedash....LAME!!!![/QUOTE]If you cling to old notions and strategies, you're still just a scrub. You need to learn that there will be new advanced techniques to master.You're playing Brawl, not Melee Mk2, so get used to the fact that you're going to have to try new stuff.
its 10/10, but I have not played it. Paradox.
check smashboards.com For all you SSBB players...??
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www.google.com
[QUOTE=''Always-Honest'']www.google.com[/QUOTE]Truth.I dont' know how much longer I can wait!
Just like Melee, except it's a bit more floaty.In a nutshell.
they took out wavedash....LAME!!!!
[QUOTE=''Jimmi323'']Just like Melee, except it's a bit more floaty.In a nutshell. [/QUOTE] That pretty much sums it up. I would rate it an 8.5. and the story is pretty decent. Also Snake is a decent character.
Well it's different from Melee. It's a little slower than melee, also floatier, the characters also seemed to slide a little more than melee... some changes in how it felt, was probably because of the havoc engine. The supposed clones aren't really that much of clones at all, wich is good. I used to be preatty upset on the fact that they took a lot of melee skills, but not anymore. The game is just different, feels different and in some cases plays different, from where I'm coming from thats actually a good thing. And from what I hear, Brawl will and already has a few tricks of its own. People will just have to get used to it, because if they think that just because someone took a wavedash or an L-cancel is a good enough reason to not get their buts kicked... well, they're in for a surprise:lol:
After playing it for a few weeks, I can say that all the characters are more balanced and the game is simply amazing. Smash balls are fun for 4 player party bashes but don't work so well for competitive play since it can swing the game so quickly (especially sonic). Some players got nerfed like samus, other players were improved such as pikachu and ness. The game is a little 'slower' (for the lack of a better term) compared to SSBM. Most of the new characters are awesome and introduced new styles of play. I like metaknight, sonic, pokemon trainer and a few unlockable players. Overall, if you liked SSBM, you will LOVE SSBB.
[QUOTE=''StealthSting'']Well it's different from Melee. It's a little slower than melee, also floatier, the characters also seemed to slide a little more than melee... some changes in how it felt, was probably because of the havoc engine. The supposed clones aren't really that much of clones at all, wich is good. I used to be preatty upset on the fact that they took a lot of melee skills, but not anymore. The game is just different, feels different and in some cases plays different, from where I'm coming from thats actually a good thing. And from what I hear, Brawl will and already has a few tricks of its own. People will just have to get used to it, because if they think that just because someone took a wavedash or an L-cancel is a good enough reason to not get their buts kicked... well, they're in for a surprise:lol:
[/QUOTE]I've actually never played Melee, since I never got a Gamecube. If you've only played the N64 version to death, how will it be for a vet of that?
[QUOTE=''adastos''][QUOTE=''Jimmi323'']Just like Melee, except it's a bit more floaty.In a nutshell. [/QUOTE] That pretty much sums it up. I would rate it an 8.5. and the story is pretty decent. Also Snake is a decent character.[/QUOTE]Excellent, I plan to use him as my main. I've seen the IGN profile video on Snake, and it cleared up a lot of doubts.
hey prince. How exactly does the physics engine work in this game? What does it effect?
It worries me hearing that it is slower than Melee. One of the reasons i love Mele is because of its crazy speed.
[QUOTE=''princeofshapeir''] I've actually never played Melee, since I never got a Gamecube. If you've only played the N64 version to death, how will it be for a vet of that? [/QUOTE] Chances are you'll probably love it.
[QUOTE=''Shinobishyguy'']hey prince. How exactly does the physics engine work in this game? What does it effect?[/QUOTE] It probably effects on how the characters interact with the environment and probably the items as well... but if you were to ask me, I didn't see anything extraordinary in comparison to the rest of the series in this area. Or in this case nothing that couldn't possibly be done without the engine. It might have to do with how the game feels different to me, but for the fact that I can't really say for sure, speaks volumes on what I think the engine is doing in the game. [QUOTE=''tmntPunchout''] The game is a little 'slower' (for the lack of a better term) compared to SSBM. Most of the new characters are awesome and introduced new **** of play. I like metaknight, sonic, pokemon trainer and a few unlockable players. Overall, if you liked SSBM, you will LOVE SSBB. [/QUOTE] Yeah I mostly loved all the new characters as well except for one tho... don't want to spoil the game. You should try putting sonic with a bunny hood running on the F-zero blue stage... He runs faster than the freaking F-zero machines :lol: .
[QUOTE=''web966'']It worries me hearing that it is slower than Melee. One of the reasons i love Mele is because of its crazy speed.[/QUOTE]It's still a pretty fast paced game. Even though they took out some of the speed, the game seems more fluid. Big slow, powerhouses aren't as useless either, like king dede.
It's Melee with moon physics, however you can't move left and right in the air as much as you could.
Captain Falcon is nerfed big time.Graphics are nicer.Stage builder's good, but you can only flip objects left n right, and not upside down (yet?, I dunno if you unlock it.).The recorder works fine, but 3 minutes? screw that. All my battles last around 5 minutes so we never get a chance to save it.There's HEAPS of music in this game.Mario's FLUDD is crap. Even it's intended use fails.That'll do for now.
[QUOTE=''poster'']Yeah I mostly loved all the new characters as well except for one tho... don't want to spoil the game. You should try putting sonic with a bunny hood running on the F-zero blue stage... He runs faster than the freaking F-zero machines :lol: . [/QUOTE] You should try outrunning the F-zero machines with Wario's FS on his motor cycle. And btw, you can pick up Snake's box mid taunt.
[QUOTE=''Gamerboi27'']they took out wavedash....LAME!!!![/QUOTE]If you cling to old notions and strategies, you're still just a scrub. You need to learn that there will be new advanced techniques to master.You're playing Brawl, not Melee Mk2, so get used to the fact that you're going to have to try new stuff.
its 10/10, but I have not played it. Paradox.
Rumour: PSW Knows Crysis Is Coming to Pl ...
http://onaxis.blogspot.com/2008/03/psw-knows-crysis-is-coming-to.html
The latest issue of UK magazine, PSW, features an article stating that ''it's no secret Crysis is coming to PS3''. They explain the upcoming PlayStation 3 version will have aspects of the sequel, and is not a direct port. Let's take a look at the article.
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Rumour: PSW Knows Crysis Is Coming to Pl ...
that's cool. please be real....Rumour: PSW Knows Crysis Is Coming to Pl ...
i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)
[QUOTE=''pro-nathan-07'']i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)[/QUOTE]??anyway...the reason its not a direct port is because the ps3 / 360 cant handle it.
[QUOTE=''pro-nathan-07'']i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)[/QUOTE] lol!! dont start mgs4 to 360 thing some fanboys will flame you bad.
[QUOTE=''p2rus''][QUOTE=''pro-nathan-07'']i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)[/QUOTE]??anyway...the reason its not a direct port is because the ps3 / 360 cant handle it.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, so if it does come its clearly not going to look as good and be downgraded, so I dont know why so many ppl find it hard to believe
Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.
[QUOTE=''dkhw'']Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, the article does mention that the PS3 version of crysis would be 50% different game, so perhaps Crysis 2?
I can see the story translating into a port, but not a direct port of the gameplay.
This is not a rumor, it is a stupid rumor
[QUOTE=''EVOLV3''][QUOTE=''dkhw'']Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, the article does mention that the PS3 version of crysis would be 50% different game, so perhaps Crysis 2?[/QUOTE]Crysis 1.5: We removed the crappy alien parts?
[QUOTE=''EVOLV3''][QUOTE=''dkhw'']Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, the article does mention that the PS3 version of crysis would be 50% different game, so perhaps Crysis 2?[/QUOTE]Nah. More like Crysis 1.5 was what I thought.
[QUOTE=''dkhw''][QUOTE=''EVOLV3''][QUOTE=''dkhw'']Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, the article does mention that the PS3 version of crysis would be 50% different game, so perhaps Crysis 2?[/QUOTE]Nah. More like Crysis 1.5 was what I thought.[/QUOTE]lol sounds like Crysis Instincts to me. 50% new game, not a entire port of the PC version. New environments or in other words scaled down environments and enemies since the original wouldn't work on PS3/360. Yup sounds like Crysis Instincts to me.
i guess apirl fools is staring early
lol its not a port because they can't do the original, not because they think new stuff would be alot better.
[QUOTE=''Conjuredevil''][QUOTE=''pro-nathan-07'']i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)[/QUOTE] lol!! dont start mgs4 to 360 thing some fanboys will flame you bad.[/QUOTE]they can hardly fit MGS4 on 1 Blu-Ray Disc cause of all the CGI, so you would need alot of DVD'a to play MGS on a 360.The Cell Processor can handle Crysis much better than the 360 CPU, thats why Crysis is coming to the PS3. The Cell's 7 processors can handle more things at one time.
MGS4 doesnt use CGI!!
[QUOTE=''saolin323''] This is not a rumor, it is a stupid rumor [/QUOTE]this isnt a stupid rumour, a ''garauntee'' that fable 2 will be almost perfect and has better graphics then crysis is a stupid rumour
spin off maybe?
[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109''] [QUOTE=''saolin323''] This is not a rumor, it is a stupid rumor [/QUOTE]this isnt a stupid rumour, a ''garauntee'' that fable 2 will be almost perfect and has better graphics then crysis is a stupid rumour[/QUOTE]Lol...true. >.> What does he see in Fable 2 graphically that no one else sees?
The latest issue of UK magazine, PSW, features an article stating that ''it's no secret Crysis is coming to PS3''. They explain the upcoming PlayStation 3 version will have aspects of the sequel, and is not a direct port. Let's take a look at the article.
''First up, we have Crysis. Now it's no secret that Crysis is coming to PS3 this year. The excitable, hard-worked coders over at Crytek have said as much in many interviews - they've even produced a new, multi-platform engine in readiness - but the real juice here is that it won't be a straight conversion of the PC game. We understand PS3 Crysis will be an almost 50% new game, with many of the original games staff taken off PC Crysis months before release to begin to work on Crysis 2 and a port to PS3 that will include aspects of the sequel - but a new structure, environments, weapons and enemies will feature on PS3. This should be one of the year's biggest console shooters.''So, new enemies, environments, and more? Until we get an official confirmation, we are going to label this baby a rumor.
[IMG]http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg219/EVOLV3_2020/crysisps3.jpg[/IMG]
Rumour: PSW Knows Crysis Is Coming to Pl ...
that's cool. please be real....Rumour: PSW Knows Crysis Is Coming to Pl ...
i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)
[QUOTE=''pro-nathan-07'']i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)[/QUOTE]??anyway...the reason its not a direct port is because the ps3 / 360 cant handle it.
[QUOTE=''pro-nathan-07'']i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)[/QUOTE] lol!! dont start mgs4 to 360 thing some fanboys will flame you bad.
[QUOTE=''p2rus''][QUOTE=''pro-nathan-07'']i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)[/QUOTE]??anyway...the reason its not a direct port is because the ps3 / 360 cant handle it.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, so if it does come its clearly not going to look as good and be downgraded, so I dont know why so many ppl find it hard to believe
Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.
[QUOTE=''dkhw'']Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, the article does mention that the PS3 version of crysis would be 50% different game, so perhaps Crysis 2?
I can see the story translating into a port, but not a direct port of the gameplay.
This is not a rumor, it is a stupid rumor
[QUOTE=''EVOLV3''][QUOTE=''dkhw'']Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, the article does mention that the PS3 version of crysis would be 50% different game, so perhaps Crysis 2?[/QUOTE]Crysis 1.5: We removed the crappy alien parts?
[QUOTE=''EVOLV3''][QUOTE=''dkhw'']Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, the article does mention that the PS3 version of crysis would be 50% different game, so perhaps Crysis 2?[/QUOTE]Nah. More like Crysis 1.5 was what I thought.
[QUOTE=''dkhw''][QUOTE=''EVOLV3''][QUOTE=''dkhw'']Maybe this is that secret Crytek Project for PS3.[/QUOTE]
Possibly, the article does mention that the PS3 version of crysis would be 50% different game, so perhaps Crysis 2?[/QUOTE]Nah. More like Crysis 1.5 was what I thought.[/QUOTE]lol sounds like Crysis Instincts to me. 50% new game, not a entire port of the PC version. New environments or in other words scaled down environments and enemies since the original wouldn't work on PS3/360. Yup sounds like Crysis Instincts to me.
i guess apirl fools is staring early
lol its not a port because they can't do the original, not because they think new stuff would be alot better.
[QUOTE=''Conjuredevil''][QUOTE=''pro-nathan-07'']i know mgs4 is coming to the 360 but shhh ;)[/QUOTE] lol!! dont start mgs4 to 360 thing some fanboys will flame you bad.[/QUOTE]they can hardly fit MGS4 on 1 Blu-Ray Disc cause of all the CGI, so you would need alot of DVD'a to play MGS on a 360.The Cell Processor can handle Crysis much better than the 360 CPU, thats why Crysis is coming to the PS3. The Cell's 7 processors can handle more things at one time.
MGS4 doesnt use CGI!!
[QUOTE=''saolin323''] This is not a rumor, it is a stupid rumor [/QUOTE]this isnt a stupid rumour, a ''garauntee'' that fable 2 will be almost perfect and has better graphics then crysis is a stupid rumour
spin off maybe?
[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109''] [QUOTE=''saolin323''] This is not a rumor, it is a stupid rumor [/QUOTE]this isnt a stupid rumour, a ''garauntee'' that fable 2 will be almost perfect and has better graphics then crysis is a stupid rumour[/QUOTE]Lol...true. >.> What does he see in Fable 2 graphically that no one else sees?
Drop all plans for game purchases you ha ...
Well, it turns out the guys who are filmed on the show Deadliest Catch have announced that they've found a team of developers that are going to show everyone how awesome it is to be a crab fisherman. I can hardly contain the excitement I have for what will surely be the most amzing game in the past ten years.Official MGS4 killer am confirmed.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4qhCJ9bnDo I mean, who can possibly disagree with me here? Some Fable fanboy?Drop all plans for game purchases you ha ...
[QUOTE=''-TheSecondSign-'']Well, it turns out the guys who are filmed on the show Deadliest Catch have announced that they've found a team of developers that are going to show everyone how awesome it is to be a crab fisherman. I can hardly contain the excitement I have for what will surely be the most amzing game in the past ten years.Official MGS4 killer am confirmed.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4qhCJ9bnDo I mean, who can possibly disagree with me here? Some Fable fanboy?[/QUOTE]nice poke at soalin there :PDrop all plans for game purchases you ha ...
I would really rather not *purchases stuff*
Looks like some new shovelware. Why isn't it for Wii? ;)
i havent been this excited since the picture of the forest in fable 2!!!!!
[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109''][QUOTE=''-TheSecondSign-'']Well, it turns out the guys who are filmed on the show Deadliest Catch have announced that they've found a team of developers that are going to show everyone how awesome it is to be a crab fisherman. I can hardly contain the excitement I have for what will surely be the most amzing game in the past ten years.Official MGS4 killer am confirmed.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4qhCJ9bnDo I mean, who can possibly disagree with me here? Some Fable fanboy?[/QUOTE]nice poke at soalin there :P[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I smiled.
This is it! The Game Of The Millenium!!!
GIANT ENEMY CRABS
[QUOTE=''carlisledavid79'']GIANT ENEMY CRABS[/QUOTE]OMFGYOU WIN!Nice!
[QUOTE=''carlisledavid79'']GIANT ENEMY CRABS[/QUOTE]
Catch them in a crab trap for...MASSIVE DAMAGE
[QUOTE=''carlisledavid79'']GIANT ENEMY CRABS[/QUOTE]This time with no weak point :o
AAAA GOTY confirmed!lol nice poke at Sailon :P
crap fishing, great :P
[QUOTE=''Juggernaut140''][QUOTE=''carlisledavid79'']GIANT ENEMY CRABS[/QUOTE]This time with no weak point :o[/QUOTE]I heard they go well with Tartar Sauce
[QUOTE=''jhonnyboi1134'']i havent been this excited since the picture of the forest in fable 2!!!!![/QUOTE]Fable will be completely destroyed by this game. The concept of going anywhere you want in a game has never been completed, but now that we can go anywhere TO GO CRAB FISHING, the concept is complete!
Graphics greater than Crysis comfirmed.
Seems like someone beat me to the ''giant enemy crab'' joke...
AAAA GotY. Will dethrone OoT as the highest rated game of all time.
will compete to zelda's fishing game!
Iv seen that program, crab fishing is really dangerous....
Crab fishing and Zelda's... Fish fishing are two different kinds of fishing, and as such, incomparable, and your point is therefore, irrelevant :|
[QUOTE=''-TheSecondSign-'']Well, it turns out the guys who are filmed on the show Deadliest Catch have announced that they've found a team of developers that are going to show everyone how awesome it is to be a crab fisherman. I can hardly contain the excitement I have for what will surely be the most amzing game in the past ten years.Official MGS4 killer am confirmed.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4qhCJ9bnDo I mean, who can possibly disagree with me here? Some Fable fanboy?[/QUOTE]nice poke at soalin there :PDrop all plans for game purchases you ha ...
I would really rather not *purchases stuff*
Looks like some new shovelware. Why isn't it for Wii? ;)
i havent been this excited since the picture of the forest in fable 2!!!!!
[QUOTE=''linkin_guy109''][QUOTE=''-TheSecondSign-'']Well, it turns out the guys who are filmed on the show Deadliest Catch have announced that they've found a team of developers that are going to show everyone how awesome it is to be a crab fisherman. I can hardly contain the excitement I have for what will surely be the most amzing game in the past ten years.Official MGS4 killer am confirmed.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4qhCJ9bnDo I mean, who can possibly disagree with me here? Some Fable fanboy?[/QUOTE]nice poke at soalin there :P[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I smiled.
This is it! The Game Of The Millenium!!!
GIANT ENEMY CRABS
[QUOTE=''carlisledavid79'']GIANT ENEMY CRABS[/QUOTE]OMFGYOU WIN!Nice!
[QUOTE=''carlisledavid79'']GIANT ENEMY CRABS[/QUOTE]
Catch them in a crab trap for...MASSIVE DAMAGE
[QUOTE=''carlisledavid79'']GIANT ENEMY CRABS[/QUOTE]This time with no weak point :o
AAAA GOTY confirmed!lol nice poke at Sailon :P
crap fishing, great :P
[QUOTE=''Juggernaut140''][QUOTE=''carlisledavid79'']GIANT ENEMY CRABS[/QUOTE]This time with no weak point :o[/QUOTE]I heard they go well with Tartar Sauce
[QUOTE=''jhonnyboi1134'']i havent been this excited since the picture of the forest in fable 2!!!!![/QUOTE]Fable will be completely destroyed by this game. The concept of going anywhere you want in a game has never been completed, but now that we can go anywhere TO GO CRAB FISHING, the concept is complete!
Graphics greater than Crysis comfirmed.
Seems like someone beat me to the ''giant enemy crab'' joke...
AAAA GotY. Will dethrone OoT as the highest rated game of all time.
will compete to zelda's fishing game!
Iv seen that program, crab fishing is really dangerous....
Crab fishing and Zelda's... Fish fishing are two different kinds of fishing, and as such, incomparable, and your point is therefore, irrelevant :|
Are wii games way too easy?????????????? ...
later today I was playing some games on my friends wii.we played mario galaxy, Wii play, wii sports, and trama centre..They were all really fun(wii sports and wii play got pretty boring rather quickly) and imaginative.but it seemed I pretty much mastered the game in like ten minutesi dono maybe its just meAre wii games way too easy?????????????? ...
All games are. It may be you, and this is coming from somebody who beats games in less than a day (I beat one in under 40 minutes earlier today).Are wii games way too easy?????????????? ...
Truama center is NOT easy.
[QUOTE=''Video_Game_King'']All games are. It may be you, and this is coming from somebody who beats games in less than a day (I beat one in under 40 minutes earlier today).[/QUOTE]40 minutes?!?!?! thats awsome man lolwhat game was it??
the trauma centre games can be pretty difficult. Did you even master chopping out those triangle GUILT things that spread?
No one, anywhere, at any time, has ever claimed Trauma Center to be easy,
more like, punishingly difficult after the first stage...it's insane, my gf has both second opinion and new blood...the difficulty is incredibly high, just like surgery, one small mistake and yer ****
[QUOTE=''GunSmith1_basic''] the trauma centre games can be pretty difficult. Did you even master chopping out those triangle GUILT things that spread?[/QUOTE]yea trama centre was pretty hard now that I think of it
The first couple trauma center stages are cakewalks because they're tutorials. After that, you will have to take everyhing you learned from those first couple of missions and apply them in under 3 seconds, ready to move on to the next peice without hesitation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdYN_1rGDXsTake a look at that review.
[QUOTE=''kittykatz5k'']The first couple trauma center stages are cakewalks because they're tutorials. After that, you will have to take everyhing you learned from those first couple of missions and apply them in under 3 seconds, ready to move on to the next peice without hesitation.[/QUOTE]yea i think we were just doing the first stages....so i guess it gets alot harder eh?
[QUOTE=''FDMIB''][QUOTE=''kittykatz5k'']The first couple trauma center stages are cakewalks because they're tutorials. After that, you will have to take everyhing you learned from those first couple of missions and apply them in under 3 seconds, ready to move on to the next peice without hesitation.[/QUOTE]yea i think we were just doing the first stages....so i guess it gets alot harder eh?[/QUOTE]The prologue is insanely easy in every single game ever made by anyone,
you ought to complete a game from start to finish, then judge difficulty.
yea trama centre was awsome the only thing I didnt like was those cut scenes
I only completed the Trauma Center for the DS and for only a few minutes the remake for the Wii. Even tho I didn't find it as difficult as some may say, I definitely found it more challenging than probably any game for the 360 or the PS3. Specially if the special missions are there?I think people exaggerate a little too much when it comes to Wii and this argument. The other two consoles are also lacking in games that have an at least satisfying difficulty... people may disregard games like DMC4 from that section and it may well be one of the most difficult games at this point for the PS3 and 360, but all in all from what I played(Wich is untill you start playing with Dante) I'm finding the game to be extremely easy. Dare I say even easier than the first one.Then there are other games like Zack and Wikki the recent to difficult a game to play called Fire emblem for the Wii and probably a few others that I don't really have the patience to search for.
I found TC to be quite challenging. Many games appear easy at first blush. Even Wii Sports can get hard, if you have the right competition.
zack and wiki, trauma center, Fire emblem, 242 stars on mario galaxy = more hard than most things(possibly all) on PS3/360.
Both Trauma games Second opinion and new blood and Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn are the hardest games you'll find on the Wii.It is a shamed that the Japanese get to have Maniac Mode in Radiant Dawn while we get a more easier title :(
[QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose'']I found TC to be quite challenging. Many games appear easy at first blush. Even Wii Sports can get hard, if you have the right competition.[/QUOTE]Are you calling the TC retarded?! :
|[QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_''][QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose'']I found TC to be quite challenging. Many games appear easy at first blush. Even Wii Sports can get hard, if you have the right competition.[/QUOTE]Are you calling the TC retarded?! :|[/QUOTE]TC as in Trauma Centre I guess.
[QUOTE=''3XRatedlocc''][QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_''][QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose'']I found TC to be quite challenging. Many games appear easy at first blush. Even Wii Sports can get hard, if you have the right competition.[/QUOTE]Are you calling the TC retarded?! :|[/QUOTE]TC as in Trauma Centre I guess.[/QUOTE]ohhhh
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All games are. It may be you, and this is coming from somebody who beats games in less than a day (I beat one in under 40 minutes earlier today).Are wii games way too easy?????????????? ...
Truama center is NOT easy.
[QUOTE=''Video_Game_King'']All games are. It may be you, and this is coming from somebody who beats games in less than a day (I beat one in under 40 minutes earlier today).[/QUOTE]40 minutes?!?!?! thats awsome man lolwhat game was it??
the trauma centre games can be pretty difficult. Did you even master chopping out those triangle GUILT things that spread?
No one, anywhere, at any time, has ever claimed Trauma Center to be easy,
more like, punishingly difficult after the first stage...it's insane, my gf has both second opinion and new blood...the difficulty is incredibly high, just like surgery, one small mistake and yer ****
[QUOTE=''GunSmith1_basic''] the trauma centre games can be pretty difficult. Did you even master chopping out those triangle GUILT things that spread?[/QUOTE]yea trama centre was pretty hard now that I think of it
The first couple trauma center stages are cakewalks because they're tutorials. After that, you will have to take everyhing you learned from those first couple of missions and apply them in under 3 seconds, ready to move on to the next peice without hesitation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdYN_1rGDXsTake a look at that review.
[QUOTE=''kittykatz5k'']The first couple trauma center stages are cakewalks because they're tutorials. After that, you will have to take everyhing you learned from those first couple of missions and apply them in under 3 seconds, ready to move on to the next peice without hesitation.[/QUOTE]yea i think we were just doing the first stages....so i guess it gets alot harder eh?
[QUOTE=''FDMIB''][QUOTE=''kittykatz5k'']The first couple trauma center stages are cakewalks because they're tutorials. After that, you will have to take everyhing you learned from those first couple of missions and apply them in under 3 seconds, ready to move on to the next peice without hesitation.[/QUOTE]yea i think we were just doing the first stages....so i guess it gets alot harder eh?[/QUOTE]The prologue is insanely easy in every single game ever made by anyone,
you ought to complete a game from start to finish, then judge difficulty.
yea trama centre was awsome the only thing I didnt like was those cut scenes
I only completed the Trauma Center for the DS and for only a few minutes the remake for the Wii. Even tho I didn't find it as difficult as some may say, I definitely found it more challenging than probably any game for the 360 or the PS3. Specially if the special missions are there?I think people exaggerate a little too much when it comes to Wii and this argument. The other two consoles are also lacking in games that have an at least satisfying difficulty... people may disregard games like DMC4 from that section and it may well be one of the most difficult games at this point for the PS3 and 360, but all in all from what I played(Wich is untill you start playing with Dante) I'm finding the game to be extremely easy. Dare I say even easier than the first one.Then there are other games like Zack and Wikki the recent to difficult a game to play called Fire emblem for the Wii and probably a few others that I don't really have the patience to search for.
I found TC to be quite challenging. Many games appear easy at first blush. Even Wii Sports can get hard, if you have the right competition.
zack and wiki, trauma center, Fire emblem, 242 stars on mario galaxy = more hard than most things(possibly all) on PS3/360.
Both Trauma games Second opinion and new blood and Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn are the hardest games you'll find on the Wii.It is a shamed that the Japanese get to have Maniac Mode in Radiant Dawn while we get a more easier title :(
[QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose'']I found TC to be quite challenging. Many games appear easy at first blush. Even Wii Sports can get hard, if you have the right competition.[/QUOTE]Are you calling the TC retarded?! :
|[QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_''][QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose'']I found TC to be quite challenging. Many games appear easy at first blush. Even Wii Sports can get hard, if you have the right competition.[/QUOTE]Are you calling the TC retarded?! :|[/QUOTE]TC as in Trauma Centre I guess.
[QUOTE=''3XRatedlocc''][QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_''][QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose'']I found TC to be quite challenging. Many games appear easy at first blush. Even Wii Sports can get hard, if you have the right competition.[/QUOTE]Are you calling the TC retarded?! :|[/QUOTE]TC as in Trauma Centre I guess.[/QUOTE]ohhhh
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The One Benefit of Xbox
I never post in System Wars but I figured this is the place to post this.I came to the realization yesterday that 99% of PC gamers are old enough to act mature when gaming online. When I first started playing CS online, almost 10 years ago, most people were ''kiddy.'' Where have all of these annoying little scumbags gone that call everything gay?XBOX LIVE!!If it weren't for Xbox live, PC gamers would have to mute each other far more often. Since there's an inherent difficulty in PC gaming, many of the immature little ''kids'' that would ruin games with their newly discovered foul mouths, are now attracted to Xbox and Xbox live.I haven't had to deal with a single spoiled brat since I started playing TF2 in September...not one. It's almost like a gaming miracle.Thank you Xbox Live for being easier to use than online PC gaming...you have saved millions of people from dealing with adolescent shenanigans.So before you rip on Xbox...just think...it probably saved you from hearing the word gay used in 13 different ways in a voice three octaves higher than your own.The One Benefit of Xbox
you can mute on xbox live too.The One Benefit of Xbox
To be honest i've never experianced fould mouthed teenagers on pc games, so i havn't needed to mute anyone. Saying that I have come across far more mainland Europeans who I can't understand, so they may as well be muted.
LOL, good point well put, although the kids you played against on counter strike 10 years ago have probably grown up now, I could be wrong but I'd put money on it.
Why in the world is anyone *not* muting those who are not on their friends list? Who the ^%$ wants to hear these people anyway? I want to play a game, not form an online relationship. If you're not on my friends list, everything you say is automatically sent to /dev/null. I don't want to hear a %$#$%%26* thing from you.
[QUOTE=''farrell2k'']Why in the world is anyone *not* muting those who are not on their friends list? Who the ^%$ wants to hear these people anyway? I want to play a game, not form an online relationship. If you're not on my friends list, everything you say is automatically sent to /dev/null. I don't want to hear a %$#$%%26* thing from you.[/QUOTE]I like trash talking. It's part of the fun. sometimes i laugh at someone i just beat. Thats' the fun of it. I mute peopel who are being over -extreme/racist or playing the plokemon theme song in the background. It's too much work going around muting everyone before a game.
[QUOTE=''Kratos_OMEGA''][QUOTE=''farrell2k'']Why in the world is anyone *not* muting those who are not on their friends list? Who the ^%$ wants to hear these people anyway? I want to play a game, not form an online relationship. If you're not on my friends list, everything you say is automatically sent to /dev/null. I don't want to hear a %$#$%%26* thing from you.[/QUOTE]I like trash talking. It's part of the fun. sometimes i laugh at someone i just beat. Thats' the fun of it.[/QUOTE] Congratulations. You're the reason why I'm glad I have mute capabilities. It makes me verry happy to know that not one pointless, unintelligent noise coming from your mouth would even pass within hearing distance of my ears.Thank you MS for the mute functionality!EDIT: This seems harsh. I have nothign against you,. Please don't take it personally :)There are settings under personal options, I believe, that allow you to automatically mute everyone but your friends. You don't have to mute one at a time. :p
[QUOTE=''farrell2k''][QUOTE=''Kratos_OMEGA''][QUOTE=''farrell2k'']Why in the world is anyone *not* muting those who are not on their friends list? Who the ^%$ wants to hear these people anyway? I want to play a game, not form an online relationship. If you're not on my friends list, everything you say is automatically sent to /dev/null. I don't want to hear a %$#$%%26* thing from you.[/QUOTE]I like trash talking. It's part of the fun. sometimes i laugh at someone i just beat. Thats' the fun of it.[/QUOTE] Congratulations. You're the reason why I'm glad I have mute capabilities. It makes me verry happy to know that not one pointless, unintelligent noise coming from your mouth would even pass within hearing distance of my ears.Thank you MS for the mute functionality!EDIT: This seems harsh. I have nothign against you,. Please don't take it personally :)There are settings under personal options, I believe, that allow you to automatically mute everyone but your friends. You don't have to mute one at a time. :p[/QUOTE]take it personally? hahaha. It's just me..i'm very competetive..most times though i react to others...if they say stuff i say stuff back. I play gears more than anything..and that's a team game. I don't swear at my team mates, but there's always a satisfaction in kicking someones ass...and if the the person you're beating was being a **** to you, it's great to say stuff back. that's what online is all about, going over the top..nah i don't do that but meh.
[QUOTE=''the1stmoonfly'']LOL, good point well put, although the kids you played against on counter strike 10 years ago have probably grown up now, I could be wrong but I'd put money on it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, though the kids who played CS have grown up, there is a newer, more anoying generation now, what i like to call the ''halo gen'' and this gen is exclusively feaured on the xbox 360 and somewhat the PS3. Funny thing is, the people who played CS 10yrs ago were kids, but the same people now play other pc multiplayer games(like BF2) but they have now grown up and matured so no cursing and childish behaviour will be seen on the PC these days.foundation makeup
you can mute on xbox live too.The One Benefit of Xbox
To be honest i've never experianced fould mouthed teenagers on pc games, so i havn't needed to mute anyone. Saying that I have come across far more mainland Europeans who I can't understand, so they may as well be muted.
LOL, good point well put, although the kids you played against on counter strike 10 years ago have probably grown up now, I could be wrong but I'd put money on it.
Why in the world is anyone *not* muting those who are not on their friends list? Who the ^%$ wants to hear these people anyway? I want to play a game, not form an online relationship. If you're not on my friends list, everything you say is automatically sent to /dev/null. I don't want to hear a %$#$%%26* thing from you.
[QUOTE=''farrell2k'']Why in the world is anyone *not* muting those who are not on their friends list? Who the ^%$ wants to hear these people anyway? I want to play a game, not form an online relationship. If you're not on my friends list, everything you say is automatically sent to /dev/null. I don't want to hear a %$#$%%26* thing from you.[/QUOTE]I like trash talking. It's part of the fun. sometimes i laugh at someone i just beat. Thats' the fun of it. I mute peopel who are being over -extreme/racist or playing the plokemon theme song in the background. It's too much work going around muting everyone before a game.
[QUOTE=''Kratos_OMEGA''][QUOTE=''farrell2k'']Why in the world is anyone *not* muting those who are not on their friends list? Who the ^%$ wants to hear these people anyway? I want to play a game, not form an online relationship. If you're not on my friends list, everything you say is automatically sent to /dev/null. I don't want to hear a %$#$%%26* thing from you.[/QUOTE]I like trash talking. It's part of the fun. sometimes i laugh at someone i just beat. Thats' the fun of it.[/QUOTE] Congratulations. You're the reason why I'm glad I have mute capabilities. It makes me verry happy to know that not one pointless, unintelligent noise coming from your mouth would even pass within hearing distance of my ears.Thank you MS for the mute functionality!EDIT: This seems harsh. I have nothign against you,. Please don't take it personally :)There are settings under personal options, I believe, that allow you to automatically mute everyone but your friends. You don't have to mute one at a time. :p
[QUOTE=''farrell2k''][QUOTE=''Kratos_OMEGA''][QUOTE=''farrell2k'']Why in the world is anyone *not* muting those who are not on their friends list? Who the ^%$ wants to hear these people anyway? I want to play a game, not form an online relationship. If you're not on my friends list, everything you say is automatically sent to /dev/null. I don't want to hear a %$#$%%26* thing from you.[/QUOTE]I like trash talking. It's part of the fun. sometimes i laugh at someone i just beat. Thats' the fun of it.[/QUOTE] Congratulations. You're the reason why I'm glad I have mute capabilities. It makes me verry happy to know that not one pointless, unintelligent noise coming from your mouth would even pass within hearing distance of my ears.Thank you MS for the mute functionality!EDIT: This seems harsh. I have nothign against you,. Please don't take it personally :)There are settings under personal options, I believe, that allow you to automatically mute everyone but your friends. You don't have to mute one at a time. :p[/QUOTE]take it personally? hahaha. It's just me..i'm very competetive..most times though i react to others...if they say stuff i say stuff back. I play gears more than anything..and that's a team game. I don't swear at my team mates, but there's always a satisfaction in kicking someones ass...and if the the person you're beating was being a **** to you, it's great to say stuff back. that's what online is all about, going over the top..nah i don't do that but meh.
[QUOTE=''the1stmoonfly'']LOL, good point well put, although the kids you played against on counter strike 10 years ago have probably grown up now, I could be wrong but I'd put money on it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, though the kids who played CS have grown up, there is a newer, more anoying generation now, what i like to call the ''halo gen'' and this gen is exclusively feaured on the xbox 360 and somewhat the PS3. Funny thing is, the people who played CS 10yrs ago were kids, but the same people now play other pc multiplayer games(like BF2) but they have now grown up and matured so no cursing and childish behaviour will be seen on the PC these days.
If the 360 controller is so much better ...
why doesnt a 3rd party company make one like the 360s for the ps3. i personally like the feel of the ps3 but i like the weight of the 360s (the new rumble should add weight though). but i hear so many people say it so why dont they make one?If the 360 controller is so much better ...
The exact design and shape of the pad will be owned by MS, and they wont licence it for competetors.If the 360 controller is so much better ...
[QUOTE=''the1stmoonfly'']The exact design and shape of the pad will be owned by MS, and they wont licence it for competetors.[/QUOTE] well im sure they could find enough things to change on it to make it work, but if a 3rd party was able to do it, im sure it would sell very well (as long as it was a notable company like logitech)
I think that the 360 controller sucks due to the unfuntional DPAD.
The real question is, I have a third party 360 controller that uses a usb and installs onto my pc without needing added software. Now if thats the case can i just use the third party 360 controller on my ps3?
[QUOTE=''river_rat3117''][QUOTE=''the1stmoonfly'']The exact design and shape of the pad will be owned by MS, and they wont licence it for competetors.[/QUOTE] well im sure they could find enough things to change on it to make it work, but if a 3rd party was able to do it, im sure it would sell very well (as long as it was a notable company like logitech)[/QUOTE]They would have to change the physical shape of the pad and positions of the buttons, which kinda defeats the object.
[QUOTE=''hamidious'']I think that the 360 controller sucks due to the unfuntional DPAD. [/QUOTE] well see thats one of the things they can change on it. if MS own the design to it, dont they need to change it X% before its legal to make.
[QUOTE=''Shazenab'']The real question is, I have a third party 360 controller that uses a usb and installs onto my pc without needing added software. Now if thats the case can i just use the third party 360 controller on my ps3?[/QUOTE]That all depends on if Sony want to add compatability to the PS3 for this pad, and that would be risking a lawsuit, and that assumes the pad maker would even risk giving Sony the software need to run the pad as MS would probably jump on that one with breach of contract suits and revoke their licence to produce 360 3rd party peripherals.
[QUOTE=''river_rat3117'']why doesnt a 3rd party company make one like the 360s for the ps3. i personally like the feel of the ps3 but i like the weight of the 360s (the new rumble should add weight though). but i hear so many people say it so why dont they make one?[/QUOTE]You don't and won't see many, and I repeat, many 3rd party controllers for the ps3 until it starts doing better in the u.s. Anyway, I know, having seen it myself, that there is a ps2 controller than looks similar to a hybrid ps2/360 pad that allows you to swap the locations of the dpad and analog pad. I am sure we'll see one when more ps3's are in the hands of u.s. gamers.
360 controller is great. DPad is clunky, but functional.
i'd like that!!. but there is such a thing as stealing design...
[QUOTE=''river_rat3117'']why doesnt a 3rd party company make one like the 360s for the ps3. i personally like the feel of the ps3 but i like the weight of the 360s (the new rumble should add weight though). but i hear so many people say it so why dont they make one?[/QUOTE]Sorry, but the 360 controller being better is nothing more than a opinion.
[QUOTE=''l-_-l''][QUOTE=''river_rat3117'']why doesnt a 3rd party company make one like the 360s for the ps3. i personally like the feel of the ps3 but i like the weight of the 360s (the new rumble should add weight though). but i hear so many people say it so why dont they make one?[/QUOTE]Sorry, but the 360 controller being better is nothing more than a opinion.[/QUOTE] yes i know but for those whose opinion is that the 360s is better should have the option to choose that kind.
The exact design and shape of the pad will be owned by MS, and they wont licence it for competetors.If the 360 controller is so much better ...
[QUOTE=''the1stmoonfly'']The exact design and shape of the pad will be owned by MS, and they wont licence it for competetors.[/QUOTE] well im sure they could find enough things to change on it to make it work, but if a 3rd party was able to do it, im sure it would sell very well (as long as it was a notable company like logitech)
I think that the 360 controller sucks due to the unfuntional DPAD.
The real question is, I have a third party 360 controller that uses a usb and installs onto my pc without needing added software. Now if thats the case can i just use the third party 360 controller on my ps3?
[QUOTE=''river_rat3117''][QUOTE=''the1stmoonfly'']The exact design and shape of the pad will be owned by MS, and they wont licence it for competetors.[/QUOTE] well im sure they could find enough things to change on it to make it work, but if a 3rd party was able to do it, im sure it would sell very well (as long as it was a notable company like logitech)[/QUOTE]They would have to change the physical shape of the pad and positions of the buttons, which kinda defeats the object.
[QUOTE=''hamidious'']I think that the 360 controller sucks due to the unfuntional DPAD. [/QUOTE] well see thats one of the things they can change on it. if MS own the design to it, dont they need to change it X% before its legal to make.
[QUOTE=''Shazenab'']The real question is, I have a third party 360 controller that uses a usb and installs onto my pc without needing added software. Now if thats the case can i just use the third party 360 controller on my ps3?[/QUOTE]That all depends on if Sony want to add compatability to the PS3 for this pad, and that would be risking a lawsuit, and that assumes the pad maker would even risk giving Sony the software need to run the pad as MS would probably jump on that one with breach of contract suits and revoke their licence to produce 360 3rd party peripherals.
[QUOTE=''river_rat3117'']why doesnt a 3rd party company make one like the 360s for the ps3. i personally like the feel of the ps3 but i like the weight of the 360s (the new rumble should add weight though). but i hear so many people say it so why dont they make one?[/QUOTE]You don't and won't see many, and I repeat, many 3rd party controllers for the ps3 until it starts doing better in the u.s. Anyway, I know, having seen it myself, that there is a ps2 controller than looks similar to a hybrid ps2/360 pad that allows you to swap the locations of the dpad and analog pad. I am sure we'll see one when more ps3's are in the hands of u.s. gamers.
360 controller is great. DPad is clunky, but functional.
i'd like that!!. but there is such a thing as stealing design...
[QUOTE=''river_rat3117'']why doesnt a 3rd party company make one like the 360s for the ps3. i personally like the feel of the ps3 but i like the weight of the 360s (the new rumble should add weight though). but i hear so many people say it so why dont they make one?[/QUOTE]Sorry, but the 360 controller being better is nothing more than a opinion.
[QUOTE=''l-_-l''][QUOTE=''river_rat3117'']why doesnt a 3rd party company make one like the 360s for the ps3. i personally like the feel of the ps3 but i like the weight of the 360s (the new rumble should add weight though). but i hear so many people say it so why dont they make one?[/QUOTE]Sorry, but the 360 controller being better is nothing more than a opinion.[/QUOTE] yes i know but for those whose opinion is that the 360s is better should have the option to choose that kind.
Are Hardcore Gamers Not Ready for Conseq ...
As some of you may remember, back at E3 2007, when Peter Molyneux first started showing off Fable 2, he introduced a few novel concepts. One was the one-button combat. The other was a system of failure where the hero never actually died. To quote from this preview: ''If you lose in combat, there has to be consequence... there has to be a cost,'' he explained, ''but the hero never dies. If he's beaten up to the point where he can't take it anymore, he drops to the ground, and then there's a 'cost' to getting back up -- which can be gold or experience points or something. The thing is, while he's down on the ground, the bad guys are still beating him up...and the injuries he sustains in that state will scar him, and those scars are permanent. Regardless of whether you pay the price or not, the hero will get up eventually, but the longer he's down, the more disfigured he'll become...and his physical appearance will affect how other characters in the game react to him.'' As we know from GDC, the combat system remains the same. What, then, happened to this feature? When Lionhead was playtesting Fable 2, and figuring out what parts of the game people liked and what parts they didn't, one of the major things that stood out was that the hardcore gamers that they had testing the game hated the death system. They couldn't stand that when they lost, their character would bear permanent scars that had consequences in the game world. In fact, many players preferred restarting the console (imposing a standard ''die, restart from checkpoint'' system) to the system that existed in the game. They didn't want to face permanent consequences in the game due to their failure. Because this mechanic playtested so poorly among those gamers, it is no longer in Fable 2. Such a death mechanic goes against the videogame norm that has existed as long as the industry: when you screw up, there are no penalties for failure besides lost time and energy (perhaps lives), things that exist outside the game itself. The gamers in those playtest sessions could not accept a system that went against that assumption of how failure systems should work in games.Are we as a community so set in our expectations of what games should be that we cannot accept systems that challenge those assumptions? Are you, posters of System Wars, for or against those penalties for failure? I, for one, would like to see more games challenge the things that many of us take for granted, and push the limits of what a game can be. What do you think about this? Are Hardcore Gamers Not Ready for Conseq ...
Hardcore gamers want to be entirely in control so they can best guide their way through the optimal path of a game. Maybe that path through Fable 2 involves not being hideously disfigured.At any rate, I personally think it sounds like a decent idea. I guess it depends on just how much effect it has on people's reaction to me, and also how much that change in reaction changes the way the game plays. Am I going to have a tough time now in the game because I keep getting beat up and disfigured? That could severely effect my enjoyment of the next 20+ hours or however long the game is... Are Hardcore Gamers Not Ready for Conseq ...
Best game for consequences? Steel betallion:)Not fast enough in hitting that eject button? lol erase your save! i loved that!
I wouldn't like it, but I like to experiment in the game worlds. Such a system would hinder that to a degree.Edit: I guess this means I'm that casual gamer your mother warned you about. ;)
[QUOTE=''WilliamRLBaker'']Best game for consequences? Steel betallion:)Not fast enough in hitting that eject button? lol erase your save! i loved that![/QUOTE] Haha, I would HATE that! :)
[QUOTE=''Corvin'']Hardcore gamers want to be entirely in control so they can best guide their way through the optimal path of a game. Maybe that path through Fable 2 involves not being hideously disfigured.At any rate, I personally think it sounds like a decent idea. I guess it depends on just how much effect it has on people's reaction to me, and also how much that change in reaction changes the way the game plays. Am I going to have a tough time now in the game because I keep getting beat up and disfigured? That could severely effect my enjoyment of the next 20+ hours or however long the game is... [/QUOTE]I guess that's the thing. We don't know any of the specifics about how the mechanic worked. For all we know, it could have just really sucked. So it's hard to say with certainty that they didn't like it solely because of the existence of consequences. It definitely gives different incentives. If you face permanent consequences for death, you're encouraged to play it safer. There's actual risk for what will happen if you screw up. But is that solely bad, or does it lead to a more realistic and intimate experience? If your actions lead to lasting consequences, it might make everything in the world mean that much more.
I'd much rather see more realistic weapon consequences in games than just physical disfiguration. Games like Oblivion just let you use your weapon until it just breaks and to me that's just crap. If a weapon is on the verge to falling apart then everything should be effected, how you use it, it's physical appearance, how much damage it causes etc.
I have the same problem with shooters. Guns jam, overheat, and fall apart in combat. Games in the past have just had the quich first of having a cool down period for the gun. Things like beach landings, water combat, muddy terrain all effect how a weapon works (except for the AK47 of course). A shooter in this day and age should incorporate the idea that there are consequences for your weapon depending on what sort of terrain you're fighting on.
To be honest, I wouldn't care if my character became horribly disfigured. It would be a lot more interesting though if my rifle jammed or my sword became blunt and rigid and I had to rely on a different strategy until I was able to repair my weapon or find a new one.
Very very interesting. It's a shame that they didn't keep this mode asit would have made for a unique gameplay experience.
This game sounds promising. My only gripe is only one button melee attack. It just doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Hopefully I''ll be proved wrong and it turns out to have a lot of depth in the combat. But this game should have a lot of replay value which makes the purchase worth it imo.
If gamers really cared for the consequences, whats to stop them from reloading their last save point right before dying?
[QUOTE=''Tiefster'']I'd much rather see more realistic weapon consequences in games than just physical disfiguration. Games like Oblivion just let you use your weapon until it just breaks and to me that's just crap. If a weapon is on the verge to falling apart then everything should be effected, how you use it, it's physical appearance, how much damage it causes etc.
[/QUOTE] :| the weapons wear does affect its attack power in Oblivion
Someone said it, because players aren't in control of the situation. Even if look at other gaming situations were a player might not be in full control, he can easily learn from his mistake and basically do a redo. The system that Fable 2 seems to impose doesn't seem to allow that redo system - unless you count restarting your console to your nearest save point. This is in conflict with the tried and tested idea that video games allow for the player to be in full control of his sorroundings, from knowledge of what is happening, or what could happen, to how that could impact the situation.For the most part, I kinda like the idea, however, I too would feel somewhat frustrated going into scenarios where I don't know much and getting beat down affecting the remainder of gaming experience. So for the most part, I think that if a player is able to prepare for the situation, then that drastically effects the redo idea; it's almost like learning ahead then putting what you know into practise, like taking a test.
I think there should be a choice, if you want the no die thing, or continue from last save.
Save game before fight, lose fight, reload last save. :DWould be neat though if that happened, that your character in the game actually got physical scars on his body.
I'm all for games breaking out of the norms in relation to real life... but I'm also all for the games that break out of the norms or think outside of the great box of cliché–Ÿ created by hundreads of established franchises over the years.So, yes, I'm definitely dissapointed by the news.
I love games with consequences Steel betallion being my favorite that game wasworth the 200 dollars i originally played, Games with consequences make you think they make you make multiple saves just to get all the extra stuff.Which is why i dont like alot of JRPGs cause there are no real consquences.
[QUOTE=''elbow2k'']Someone said it, because players aren't in control of the situation. Even if look at other gaming situations were a player might not be in full control, he can easily learn from his mistake and basically do a redo. The system that Fable 2 seems to impose doesn't seem to allow that redo system - unless you count restarting your console to your nearest save point. This is in conflict with the tried and tested idea that video games allow for the player to be in full control of his sorroundings, from knowledge of what is happening, or what could happen, to how that could impact the situation.For the most part, I kinda like the idea, however, I too would feel somewhat frustrated going into scenarios where I don't know much and getting beat down affecting the remainder of gaming experience. So for the most part, I think that if a player is able to prepare for the situation, then that drastically effects the redo idea; it's almost like learning ahead then putting what you know into practise, like taking a test.[/QUOTE]I think that was part of the challenge that was intended: to be able to ''think on your feet'': to be able to handle the unknown and still come out of it alive. So you're walking into an unknown situation. You have to look around and figure out just where the trouble can come. At least, I think that was the idea. Perhaps the fact that the trouble can itself come from angles not easily imagined (this being a fantasy-oriented title) may have placed too much stress on the player.
I really like this idea, but I can see where supposedly ''hardcore'' gamers might not like actually having consequences.
[QUOTE=''hellhund'']I really like this idea, but I can see where supposedly ''hardcore'' gamers might not like actually having consequences.[/QUOTE]I dont think it's that. It's the fact that hardcore gamers know through experience that--at least in gaming--''Bang, you're dead'' moments happen pretty often and can come from pretty unexpected places.
[QUOTE=''HuusAsking''][QUOTE=''hellhund'']I really like this idea, but I can see where supposedly ''hardcore'' gamers might not like actually having consequences.[/QUOTE]I dont think it's that. It's the fact that hardcore gamers know through experience that--at least in gaming--''Bang, you're dead'' moments happen pretty often and can come from pretty unexpected places.[/QUOTE] Maybe I'm the only one like this, but I can't help but invite disaster upon myself in games. If I see a dark alley, even if it's out of the way and seems to offer me no benefit for exploring it, curiosity will get the best of me and I'll go skipping into it.Basically, I can't help but poke sleeping guard dogs with sticks just to see what happens.
Hardcore gamers want to be entirely in control so they can best guide their way through the optimal path of a game. Maybe that path through Fable 2 involves not being hideously disfigured.At any rate, I personally think it sounds like a decent idea. I guess it depends on just how much effect it has on people's reaction to me, and also how much that change in reaction changes the way the game plays. Am I going to have a tough time now in the game because I keep getting beat up and disfigured? That could severely effect my enjoyment of the next 20+ hours or however long the game is... Are Hardcore Gamers Not Ready for Conseq ...
Best game for consequences? Steel betallion:)Not fast enough in hitting that eject button? lol erase your save! i loved that!
I wouldn't like it, but I like to experiment in the game worlds. Such a system would hinder that to a degree.Edit: I guess this means I'm that casual gamer your mother warned you about. ;)
[QUOTE=''WilliamRLBaker'']Best game for consequences? Steel betallion:)Not fast enough in hitting that eject button? lol erase your save! i loved that![/QUOTE] Haha, I would HATE that! :)
[QUOTE=''Corvin'']Hardcore gamers want to be entirely in control so they can best guide their way through the optimal path of a game. Maybe that path through Fable 2 involves not being hideously disfigured.At any rate, I personally think it sounds like a decent idea. I guess it depends on just how much effect it has on people's reaction to me, and also how much that change in reaction changes the way the game plays. Am I going to have a tough time now in the game because I keep getting beat up and disfigured? That could severely effect my enjoyment of the next 20+ hours or however long the game is... [/QUOTE]I guess that's the thing. We don't know any of the specifics about how the mechanic worked. For all we know, it could have just really sucked. So it's hard to say with certainty that they didn't like it solely because of the existence of consequences. It definitely gives different incentives. If you face permanent consequences for death, you're encouraged to play it safer. There's actual risk for what will happen if you screw up. But is that solely bad, or does it lead to a more realistic and intimate experience? If your actions lead to lasting consequences, it might make everything in the world mean that much more.
I'd much rather see more realistic weapon consequences in games than just physical disfiguration. Games like Oblivion just let you use your weapon until it just breaks and to me that's just crap. If a weapon is on the verge to falling apart then everything should be effected, how you use it, it's physical appearance, how much damage it causes etc.
I have the same problem with shooters. Guns jam, overheat, and fall apart in combat. Games in the past have just had the quich first of having a cool down period for the gun. Things like beach landings, water combat, muddy terrain all effect how a weapon works (except for the AK47 of course). A shooter in this day and age should incorporate the idea that there are consequences for your weapon depending on what sort of terrain you're fighting on.
To be honest, I wouldn't care if my character became horribly disfigured. It would be a lot more interesting though if my rifle jammed or my sword became blunt and rigid and I had to rely on a different strategy until I was able to repair my weapon or find a new one.
Very very interesting. It's a shame that they didn't keep this mode asit would have made for a unique gameplay experience.
This game sounds promising. My only gripe is only one button melee attack. It just doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Hopefully I''ll be proved wrong and it turns out to have a lot of depth in the combat. But this game should have a lot of replay value which makes the purchase worth it imo.
If gamers really cared for the consequences, whats to stop them from reloading their last save point right before dying?
[QUOTE=''Tiefster'']I'd much rather see more realistic weapon consequences in games than just physical disfiguration. Games like Oblivion just let you use your weapon until it just breaks and to me that's just crap. If a weapon is on the verge to falling apart then everything should be effected, how you use it, it's physical appearance, how much damage it causes etc.
[/QUOTE] :| the weapons wear does affect its attack power in Oblivion
Someone said it, because players aren't in control of the situation. Even if look at other gaming situations were a player might not be in full control, he can easily learn from his mistake and basically do a redo. The system that Fable 2 seems to impose doesn't seem to allow that redo system - unless you count restarting your console to your nearest save point. This is in conflict with the tried and tested idea that video games allow for the player to be in full control of his sorroundings, from knowledge of what is happening, or what could happen, to how that could impact the situation.For the most part, I kinda like the idea, however, I too would feel somewhat frustrated going into scenarios where I don't know much and getting beat down affecting the remainder of gaming experience. So for the most part, I think that if a player is able to prepare for the situation, then that drastically effects the redo idea; it's almost like learning ahead then putting what you know into practise, like taking a test.
I think there should be a choice, if you want the no die thing, or continue from last save.
Save game before fight, lose fight, reload last save. :DWould be neat though if that happened, that your character in the game actually got physical scars on his body.
I'm all for games breaking out of the norms in relation to real life... but I'm also all for the games that break out of the norms or think outside of the great box of cliché–Ÿ created by hundreads of established franchises over the years.So, yes, I'm definitely dissapointed by the news.
I love games with consequences Steel betallion being my favorite that game wasworth the 200 dollars i originally played, Games with consequences make you think they make you make multiple saves just to get all the extra stuff.Which is why i dont like alot of JRPGs cause there are no real consquences.
[QUOTE=''elbow2k'']Someone said it, because players aren't in control of the situation. Even if look at other gaming situations were a player might not be in full control, he can easily learn from his mistake and basically do a redo. The system that Fable 2 seems to impose doesn't seem to allow that redo system - unless you count restarting your console to your nearest save point. This is in conflict with the tried and tested idea that video games allow for the player to be in full control of his sorroundings, from knowledge of what is happening, or what could happen, to how that could impact the situation.For the most part, I kinda like the idea, however, I too would feel somewhat frustrated going into scenarios where I don't know much and getting beat down affecting the remainder of gaming experience. So for the most part, I think that if a player is able to prepare for the situation, then that drastically effects the redo idea; it's almost like learning ahead then putting what you know into practise, like taking a test.[/QUOTE]I think that was part of the challenge that was intended: to be able to ''think on your feet'': to be able to handle the unknown and still come out of it alive. So you're walking into an unknown situation. You have to look around and figure out just where the trouble can come. At least, I think that was the idea. Perhaps the fact that the trouble can itself come from angles not easily imagined (this being a fantasy-oriented title) may have placed too much stress on the player.
I really like this idea, but I can see where supposedly ''hardcore'' gamers might not like actually having consequences.
[QUOTE=''hellhund'']I really like this idea, but I can see where supposedly ''hardcore'' gamers might not like actually having consequences.[/QUOTE]I dont think it's that. It's the fact that hardcore gamers know through experience that--at least in gaming--''Bang, you're dead'' moments happen pretty often and can come from pretty unexpected places.
[QUOTE=''HuusAsking''][QUOTE=''hellhund'']I really like this idea, but I can see where supposedly ''hardcore'' gamers might not like actually having consequences.[/QUOTE]I dont think it's that. It's the fact that hardcore gamers know through experience that--at least in gaming--''Bang, you're dead'' moments happen pretty often and can come from pretty unexpected places.[/QUOTE] Maybe I'm the only one like this, but I can't help but invite disaster upon myself in games. If I see a dark alley, even if it's out of the way and seems to offer me no benefit for exploring it, curiosity will get the best of me and I'll go skipping into it.Basically, I can't help but poke sleeping guard dogs with sticks just to see what happens.
I need all INFO for GT5. Damage, realtim ...
Can anyone everyone post what we know so far for the full GT5?Will it have all this?
I am mad at my X-Box...
ok first off...1.Xbox gets RROD about 5 months ago(i had to send it in 1 month to get it back..)2.A unplayable disc error (about 5 days till i fixed it)3.Another unplayable disc error i tried the same thing as the last one(use dust off)yet it does not work and its just laying here...Any suggestions on how to fix it? (Cause i do NOT want to send it in again)I am mad at my X-Box...
sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...I am mad at my X-Box...
also, why don't you send it in?! You got a Wii, PS3, and PC to play. When I got RRoD, I just played GTA:SA on my PS2 and some other old games.
[QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_'']sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...[/QUOTE]Actually, they are, even one of M$'s top of the line demo models at the GDC got a DRE,
and it isn't covered after 90 days :cry: You are better off getting the RRoD, they'll ''fix'' that for you.Are you in Canada, took me a month both times too, that doesn't include the time it took to get the shipping box :cry:
why not send it in rather than fiddle with it and making it worse
[QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier''][QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_'']sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...[/QUOTE]Actually, they are, even one of M$'s top of the line demo models at the GDC got a DRE,
and it isn't covered after 90 days :cry: You are better off getting the RRoD, they'll ''fix'' that for you.Are you in Canada, took me a month both times too, that doesn't include the time it took to get the shipping box :cry:[/QUOTE]It's actually a 1-year warranty for all other non related rrod issues
welll this sounds fake for some reason....anyways, yeah suggestions: bring it back to the store or repair shop.
Go out, buy Unchartered or Heavenly Sword or even COD4. and play some PS3:)
[QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier''][QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_'']sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...[/QUOTE]Actually, they are, even one of M$'s top of the line demo models at the GDC got a DRE,
and it isn't covered after 90 days :cry: You are better off getting the RRoD, they'll ''fix'' that for you.Are you in Canada, took me a month both times too, that doesn't include the time it took to get the shipping box :cry:[/QUOTE] I don't think living in Canada has anything to do with it, I live on Toronto and it was literally 8 days from the day I dropped my 360 off at Purolator till the day my replacement was dropped off at my house.Anyway I would send it in. Better to live without your 360 for a month or so than try to fix something yourself, void your warranty and end up with a $280+ paperweight.
[QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_''][QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier''][QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_'']sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...[/QUOTE]Actually, they are, even one of M$'s top of the line demo models at the GDC got a DRE,
and it isn't covered after 90 days :cry: You are better off getting the RRoD, they'll ''fix'' that for you.Are you in Canada, took me a month both times too, that doesn't include the time it took to get the shipping box :cry:[/QUOTE]It's actually a 1-year warranty for all other non related rrod issues[/QUOTE]Is it? The manual indicates 90 day warranty on all issues, I only believe they extended the RRoD warranty, since I only delt with RRoD, got pictures and all, I have no idea, only what the manual states.
The Xbox should be mad at you because you spell it X-box.But if you're not satisfied, might aswell sell it.
[QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier'']Is it? The manual indicates 90 day warranty on all issues, I only believe they extended the RRoD warranty, since I only delt with RRoD, got pictures and all, I have no idea, only what the manual states.[/QUOTE] It's a 1-year general warranty and a 3-year RROD warranty.
[QUOTE=''PBSnipes''][QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier'']Is it? The manual indicates 90 day warranty on all issues, I only believe they extended the RRoD warranty, since I only delt with RRoD, got pictures and all, I have no idea, only what the manual states.[/QUOTE] It's a 1-year general warranty and a 3-year RROD warranty.[/QUOTE]Funny how they update the website, but not their own manual,
anyways, interesting, I only delt with RRoD as I stated, but, there are many other problems,
but there's your answer, if it's under a year old, send it in, and sell the replacement,
if not, sent it in, pay the $90, and sell the replacement, easy right?
just send it in while it's free to.i've had mine break that amount of times, just it was 2 rrod's and 1 dre.
get a ps3?
send it in again
[QUOTE=''-D3MO-'']get a ps3?[/QUOTE]lol you're sig is hilarious,
You should ground it.
yea this is one of the main reason i decided not to buy a 360. my friend is a hardcore gamer seriously. all he does is play. that his life. 360 24/7.hes had it for 1.5 years and he really pissed at it when ever he completes a games and goes to replay it its partically impossile for him. he constantly need to restart hes 360 like 10 times befor it work and even when it works it lags like a muthaf****r .the 360 looked good in my eyes because of the price and xbox live and i was saving up to get it but now i just gonna get the ps3 because of blu ray and stick to playin my PC
My suggestion don't try to fiddle with the Xbox360, either take it for professional repairs or else do the best thing and get a PS3 or Wii depending on your tastes since both are so much more reliable :)
sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...I am mad at my X-Box...
also, why don't you send it in?! You got a Wii, PS3, and PC to play. When I got RRoD, I just played GTA:SA on my PS2 and some other old games.
[QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_'']sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...[/QUOTE]Actually, they are, even one of M$'s top of the line demo models at the GDC got a DRE,
and it isn't covered after 90 days :cry: You are better off getting the RRoD, they'll ''fix'' that for you.Are you in Canada, took me a month both times too, that doesn't include the time it took to get the shipping box :cry:
why not send it in rather than fiddle with it and making it worse
[QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier''][QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_'']sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...[/QUOTE]Actually, they are, even one of M$'s top of the line demo models at the GDC got a DRE,
and it isn't covered after 90 days :cry: You are better off getting the RRoD, they'll ''fix'' that for you.Are you in Canada, took me a month both times too, that doesn't include the time it took to get the shipping box :cry:[/QUOTE]It's actually a 1-year warranty for all other non related rrod issues
welll this sounds fake for some reason....anyways, yeah suggestions: bring it back to the store or repair shop.
Go out, buy Unchartered or Heavenly Sword or even COD4. and play some PS3:)
[QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier''][QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_'']sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...[/QUOTE]Actually, they are, even one of M$'s top of the line demo models at the GDC got a DRE,
and it isn't covered after 90 days :cry: You are better off getting the RRoD, they'll ''fix'' that for you.Are you in Canada, took me a month both times too, that doesn't include the time it took to get the shipping box :cry:[/QUOTE] I don't think living in Canada has anything to do with it, I live on Toronto and it was literally 8 days from the day I dropped my 360 off at Purolator till the day my replacement was dropped off at my house.Anyway I would send it in. Better to live without your 360 for a month or so than try to fix something yourself, void your warranty and end up with a $280+ paperweight.
[QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_''][QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier''][QUOTE=''_KenKittyragi_'']sucks for u, disc errors aren't that common with 360s. RRoD on the other hand...[/QUOTE]Actually, they are, even one of M$'s top of the line demo models at the GDC got a DRE,
and it isn't covered after 90 days :cry: You are better off getting the RRoD, they'll ''fix'' that for you.Are you in Canada, took me a month both times too, that doesn't include the time it took to get the shipping box :cry:[/QUOTE]It's actually a 1-year warranty for all other non related rrod issues[/QUOTE]Is it? The manual indicates 90 day warranty on all issues, I only believe they extended the RRoD warranty, since I only delt with RRoD, got pictures and all, I have no idea, only what the manual states.
The Xbox should be mad at you because you spell it X-box.But if you're not satisfied, might aswell sell it.
[QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier'']Is it? The manual indicates 90 day warranty on all issues, I only believe they extended the RRoD warranty, since I only delt with RRoD, got pictures and all, I have no idea, only what the manual states.[/QUOTE] It's a 1-year general warranty and a 3-year RROD warranty.
[QUOTE=''PBSnipes''][QUOTE=''Andrew_Xavier'']Is it? The manual indicates 90 day warranty on all issues, I only believe they extended the RRoD warranty, since I only delt with RRoD, got pictures and all, I have no idea, only what the manual states.[/QUOTE] It's a 1-year general warranty and a 3-year RROD warranty.[/QUOTE]Funny how they update the website, but not their own manual,
anyways, interesting, I only delt with RRoD as I stated, but, there are many other problems,
but there's your answer, if it's under a year old, send it in, and sell the replacement,
if not, sent it in, pay the $90, and sell the replacement, easy right?
just send it in while it's free to.i've had mine break that amount of times, just it was 2 rrod's and 1 dre.
get a ps3?
send it in again
[QUOTE=''-D3MO-'']get a ps3?[/QUOTE]lol you're sig is hilarious,
You should ground it.
yea this is one of the main reason i decided not to buy a 360. my friend is a hardcore gamer seriously. all he does is play. that his life. 360 24/7.hes had it for 1.5 years and he really pissed at it when ever he completes a games and goes to replay it its partically impossile for him. he constantly need to restart hes 360 like 10 times befor it work and even when it works it lags like a muthaf****r .the 360 looked good in my eyes because of the price and xbox live and i was saving up to get it but now i just gonna get the ps3 because of blu ray and stick to playin my PC
My suggestion don't try to fiddle with the Xbox360, either take it for professional repairs or else do the best thing and get a PS3 or Wii depending on your tastes since both are so much more reliable :)
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